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billy force Zulu One Nin er LNF House Leader Fighting Communism since 1969 Posts: 8101 Gender:	Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia. Reply #210 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 1:32am Looks like I was gazing into my crystal ball yesterday when I said that the Ukraine was next...they know it, thats why they have been making noise about barring Russian ships. The KGB's former best man has just about guarantee's the Uke's a NATO slot. Billy
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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #211 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 1:36am

Quote from Shooterman on Aug 10^th, 2008, 9:55pm:

Was Iraq a sovereign nation?

The world is awash with dictators, but we don't seem to want to put a serious case of whup-ass on them.

As menacing as Putin is, he is NOT A THREAT TO THE US....yet. Let him reintegrate the USSR, hijack all the oil he can, rearm and in ten years my grandkids or yours will likely say otherwise.

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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #212 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 5:30am

Late at night the Georgian armies Have started to fire Schinvali from rocket installations "Squall". As all of you know this weapon it is made for bombardment of greater areas without an aiming. Bombardment was made on inhabited quarters. And because of it in the first day 2000 peace inhabitants were lost. How it to name? How many still it is necessary corpses that it to name a genocide? Georgia spent massive ethnic cleaning. And you perfectly know it. After bombardment, the Georgian armies have unexpectedly attacked military stations of the Russian peacemakers. The strike occured by means of tanks, mass bombardment. In the first night 12 peacemakers have been killed, 34 are wounded. I shall remind, that peacemakers were in territory of Ossetia under the Moscow contract of 1994 between Ossetia and Georgia. How to it to not react? And then Georgia regrets to the lost Georgians. And WHERE IT REGRETTED WHEN FIRED at the PEACE INHABITANTS? It is proved, that the Russian armies on territory of not belonging Ossetia did not come.

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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #213 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 6:28am

Quote from Pepe on Aug 10^th, 2008, 5:21pm:

Geopolitics is beyond the realm for all but a few hereabouts.

There are multiple reasons that Russia is in Georgia.

One. They want to install a Pro-Russian Government because....................Russia clearly understands America's and Europe's "Achilles Heel"...............Energy and the continuing and ever growing need for more "Imported" Energy.

Two. A clear message to the Ukraine and other Caucuses Nations that it is not healthy to wander too far "off the reservation."

Three. A message to the US/EU/NATO to f#ck off. You will not play in the Bear's backyard.

Four. A reassurance to Iran that they have nothing to fear from the US.

Five. "Blowback" for screwing over the Serbs who have been loyal allies of the Russians for centuries.

Six. To show the US that Russia has "arrived" back on the world stage.

Seven. "Blowback" for rubbing Russia's political, diplomatic, financial and military weakness in the mud on the world stage after the "Fall of the Wall."

Eight. More "Blowback." The US broke its promise to move no bases further East after the Russians pulled its Military Forces back East of the Urals.

Hi all!
I want to answer those items as I see it (I am russian)
One. Russia is not so strong (economically and politically) as the US and so we have no chance to install a Pro-Russian Government in Georgia. It is not in our interests. We cannot attack other countries as US has attacked Iraq or Afghanistan, and now wishes to attack Iran. All we need is a peace in South Osetia.

Two. We do not have necessity to do the message to Ukraine or to other Caucasian nations because we do not have disagreements with them. We have disagreements only with Presidents of Ukraine and Georgia (Georgia especially). They are installed Pro-American Government.

Three. F#ck off! This message is only to the USA.

Four. Iran is a country with own interests. I think they know that US can attack them, but it is not a reason to agree with the US or us (possibly it is a surprise for americans, but russians do not want that Iran had a nuclear weapon too). US can attack them, but Russia could not, we can only to negotiate with them and ask not to develop the nuclear program. And we against US aggression to the Iran.

Five. Serbia is a small Europian country. NATO invaded Serbia and took away of its part Kosovo. Now Russia has invaded Geargia, not to take away its part, but only to keep peace between Geargians and Osetins. Nevertheless, the estimation from the world community is much more negative.

Six. To show the US that Russia is an independent country with its own national interests.

Seven. No comments. I do not think that it is a "Blowback", but you can think so.

Eight. The same answer.

A few words about russian propoganda and media control. I have a free access to the Internet (like other 30 million Russian internet-users) and I can understand english texts reading CNN or BBC news. I do not watch TV.

Thank you.

PS. Just visit http://war.georgia.su/

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russia-forever Ex Member	Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia. Reply #214 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:10am stop the war!!!!!!!!!OSSETIA IS NOT GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!RUSSIA IS NOT AN AGRESSOR!!!!!!!!!SAAKASHVILI IS A LIAR AND DIKTATOR!!!!!!WE WILL FIGHT FOR FREEDOM UNTIL THE END OF TIMES!!!! [color=#ff0000][/color]PROUD TO BE RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!! George Bush-new gitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #215 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:25am

Quote from russia-forever on Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:10am:

stop the war!!!!!!!!!OSSETIA IS NOT GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!!!!RUSSIA IS NOT AN AGRESSOR!!!!!!!!!SAAKASHVILI IS A LIAR AND DIKTATOR!!!!!!WE WILL FIGHT FOR FREEDOM UNTIL THE END OF TIMES!!!!
[color=#ff0000][/color]PROUD TO BE RUSSIAN!!!!!!!!!!
George Bush-new gitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing at the idiots who feel the need to come here on this forum and defend their motherlands aggressive action. Screw Russia! Go back to your slum houses and squalor and live under your regime. This forum is an American forum, not a Russian forum.

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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #216 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:28am

Quote from Terran on Aug 11^th, 2008, 6:28am:

Hi all!
I want to answer those items as I see it (I am russian)
One. Russia is not so strong (economically and politically) as the US and so we have no chance to install a Pro-Russian Government in Georgia. It is not in our interests. We cannot attack other countries as US has attacked Iraq or Afghanistan, and now wishes to attack Iran. All we need is a peace in South Osetia.

Two. We do not have necessity to do the message to Ukraine or to other Caucasian nations because we do not have disagreements with them. We have disagreements only with Presidents of Ukraine and Georgia (Georgia especially). They are installed Pro-American Government.

Three. F#ck off! This message is only to the USA.

Four. Iran is a country with own interests. I think they know that US can attack them, but it is not a reason to agree with the US or us (possibly it is a surprise for americans, but russians do not want that Iran had a nuclear weapon too). US can attack them, but Russia could not, we can only to negotiate with them and ask not to develop the nuclear program. And we against US aggression to the Iran.

Five. Serbia is a small Europian country. NATO invaded Serbia and took away of its part Kosovo. Now Russia has invaded Geargia, not to take away its part, but only to keep peace between Geargians and Osetins. Nevertheless, the estimation from the world community is much more negative.

Six. To show the US that Russia is an independent country with its own national interests.

Seven. No comments. I do not think that it is a "Blowback", but you can think so.

Eight. The same answer.

A few words about russian propoganda and media control. I have a free access to the Internet (like other 30 million Russian internet-users) and I can understand english texts reading CNN or BBC news. I do not watch TV.

Thank you.

PS. Just visit http://war.georgia.su/

First off you have already violated forum rules. This is an American forum so to come here to this site to insult us will now get you the boot and your thread removed. Goodbye!

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Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia.
Reply #217 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:52am

Quote from cclezel on Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:28am:

First off you have already violated forum rules. This is an American forum so to come here to this site to insult us will now get you the boot and your thread removed. Goodbye!

I did not want to insult anybody. I only want you to understand an opposite point of view.

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Terran LNF Staffer2 I Love Liberty News Forum! Posts: 71 Gender:	Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia. Reply #218 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:59am Quote from cclezel on Aug 11^th, 2008, 7:25am: Go back to your slum houses and squalor and live under your regime. This is a set of stereotypes. Go on, say that KGB governs our country and bears are walking on our streets. This is also very funny.
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russia-forever Ex Member	Re: War started: Georgia attacked South Osetia. Reply #219 - Aug 11^th, 2008, 8:04am Rules of a forum? Really rules of a forum - to offend Russia? Even people georgia recognize that SAAKASHVILI the-tyrant!!!!!!And we is far not the poor country! It is a myth, as well as bears, and nested dolls!And I do not blame the country, I blame only george in USA. People here not and
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