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US Constitution does not apply
Oct 29th, 2009, 12:41am
 
The US Constitution does not apply if there are no protections if force. I was in the former Soviet Union after the wall fell. I was not in Russia. I had the Russian Constitution for individual rights read to me, it sounded like they had more rights than we do. But, when you get to reality, a government can say anything, just like anyone on the street. You only have your rights protected if you are part of a protected group. So, if you are not part of a protected group, you have to go to a lawyer and sue, and the courts are to protect the government and system second and to collect revenue, number one. So, really, it is just a farce that you have any rights, you just have a belief that you have them until you can actually test the theory.  
 
Lawyers get their law licenses from a state. See how long a lawyer lasts who breaks ranks with his state lawyer organization, with judges, and/or with police and see how long he or she lasts. Lawyers work in the same courtrooms day after day, and don't you think they eventually just are on the same team as the circus they are playing in, the courts?
 
I found out the hard way that in downtown America police officers have more of a relationship with prostitutes, drug dealers, vandals, and other criminals than they do outsider home and business owners. If you are part of a family with history and political history, yes, it is different for you. If you get in the way of the system, you can end up dead, beaten, or even in prison, guilty of no crime.  
 
Get in the way of prostitution, drug dealing, and crime against the wishes of officers, and they will target you, the honest taxpayer raising a family. Speaking of families, if you have kids, a state such as Connecticut may take away ten times more kids than is necessary. By processing them, making you take court ordered classes, and if they are taken away and placed, a state gets federal tax dollars. So, by abusing you, a state makes federal tax dollars.  
 
The true power behind the power is a union, AFSCME/AFL-CIO, Most police and government workers are part of this union nationwide. The union dues is used to back candidates that will make sure more tax dollars are used to hire more and more workers to do less, and less, and have less accountability. The "Hoffa" style union protects important members who break laws, hatch scams, and abuse others. Those that inform on the inside, or the outside, are put on the enemies list. Those on the enemies list are fired if they are employees, and might be arrested and railroaded to prison if they are outsiders.  
 
This is how government works.
 
We're in Afghanistan so that heroin is cheaper, more plentiful, and powerful on American streets, so that the war profiteers and their politician friends have covert operation and retirement money. Do you remember Iran/Contra? Well, that was about CIA transports bringing in as much cocaine as possible from South America to the United States. Nancy Reagan was say, "Just say no," while Ronny was saying yes to operatives bringing in as much coke as could be flown into the US.  
 
The US Government doesn't serve you, they are sucking your blood, corrupting children, destroying lives, and putting as many people in prison as possible as that is part of the make-work economy and make up jobs for the connected in a country which has less and less industry.  
 
Want to know more of what I am talking about and have actual proof? Click link:
http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=14753
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Reply #1 - Oct 29th, 2009, 9:13am
 

What you just described is Liberal politics, the socialists dream.
You yourself said it, former USSR appeared to grant more rights, but in reality, socialists create that illusion, all the while stealing them through Gov handouts.
 
We aren't there yet, but if given a chance, the Dim party will take us there in a heart beat.
 
I was going to hammer on you for your pathetic outlook on life, being that you are still in your twenties, you have much to learn, and learn you will, stick around.
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I don't believe in socialism. The constitution thing that I was talking about was, their constitution granted the USSR citizens rights that they obviously didn't have, and none of the people there actually believed they had rights.
 
The difference is, we in the US, believe we have the rights, until we see firsthand if they apply.  
 
I invested 100's of thousands of dollars and years of my life fixing up boarded up rental properties. I was told by the selectman in that town to sell my properties at a loss to one of his important friends, "Or else".  
 
So, I would get know police protection and service as a punishment. So, drug dealers, prostitutes, and vandals knew they could do what they wanted on my property, and if I called police, the Connecticut State Police told me only I would be arrested and if I did not leave the state I would be arrested and go to prison. I didn't and was sentenced to a year in prison for resisting being mugged on my own property. A crazy as it sounds, it is true and there is proof.
 
I am not an isolated case. If the police and judiciary workers are part of the same union, and the union brass puts you on the "Enemies List", you are toasted.  
 
Plenty of evidence, just in news stories and links:
http://thegetjusticecoalition.blogspot.com/2008/11/police-recruits-young-armed-d angerous.html
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Quote from Vikingas on Oct 29th, 2009, 10:06am:
I don't believe in socialism. The constitution thing that I was talking about was, their constitution granted the USSR citizens rights that they obviously didn't have, and none of the people there actually believed they had rights.

The difference is, we in the US, believe we have the rights, until we see firsthand if they apply.

I invested 100's of thousands of dollars and years of my life fixing up boarded up rental properties. I was told by the selectman in that town to sell my properties at a loss to one of his important friends, "Or else".

So, I would get know police protection and service as a punishment. So, drug dealers, prostitutes, and vandals knew they could do what they wanted on my property, and if I called police, the Connecticut State Police told me only I would be arrested and if I did not leave the state I would be arrested and go to prison. I didn't and was sentenced to a year in prison for resisting being mugged on my own property. A crazy as it sounds, it is true and there is proof.

I am not an isolated case. If the police and judiciary workers are part of the same union, and the union brass puts you on the "Enemies List", you are toasted.

Plenty of evidence, just in news stories and links:
http://thegetjusticecoalition.blogspot.com/2008/11/police-recruits-young-armed-d angerous.html

You are trying to impugn the Constitution, over a local thug issue.
See Chicago as an example, but it is not that way all over the Country.
If you don't like the system, then run for office, or sponsor someone you trust.
 
Ya know, when it comes to power, some things never change.
You may find this article very interesting, as a peek back in time.
It's a bit long, but gets very interesting from a historical POV.
 
 
http://www.eslarp.uiuc.edu/IBEX/ARCHIVE/nunes/esl%20history/esl_police.htm
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Reply #4 - Oct 30th, 2009, 1:17am
 
Quote from Solar Rightwing Extremist on Oct 29th, 2009, 12:08pm:

You are trying to impugn the Constitution, over a local thug issue.
See Chicago as an example, but it is not that way all over the Country.
If you don't like the system, then run for office, or sponsor someone you trust.

Ya know, when it comes to power, some things never change.
You may find this article very interesting, as a peek back in time.
It's a bit long, but gets very interesting from a historical POV.


http://www.eslarp.uiuc.edu/IBEX/ARCHIVE/nunes/esl%20history/esl_police.htm

 
I check your link. Thanks for posting it was a good read. So, cops back in the day used to double their incomes by doing jobs for the Mafia and Organized Crime? The whole bit on kickbacks, bribes, etc was much more overt. I think the same goes on now, or worse, it is just slicker and more covert.  
 
The same problem existed then as it does now. There is not adequate oversight of the courts and of the police. If you make a misconduct complaint against a judge or police officer, don't expect to not have the whole police force and those in the local court not to hear about it. Then what do you think happens?
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Quote from Vikingas on Oct 30th, 2009, 1:17am:


I check your link. Thanks for posting it was a good read. So, cops back in the day used to double their incomes by doing jobs for the Mafia and Organized Crime? The whole bit on kickbacks, bribes, etc was much more overt. I think the same goes on now, or worse, it is just slicker and more covert.

The same problem existed then as it does now. There is not adequate oversight of the courts and of the police. If you make a misconduct complaint against a judge or police officer, don't expect to not have the whole police force and those in the local court not to hear about it. Then what do you think happens?

 
I thought you might enjoy that read. Wink
I think this problem is inherent in most large cities in the East and South, it becomes less of an issue the further West you go.
I think the reeason is our cities are much younger and less corrupt, but we are seeing a different kind of thug, the liberal.
Look at San Fran, LA or Nevada, their center of corruption is political, much like a Union thug, it matters what you can do for the political cause, lining their pockets,  is all part n parcel.  
But if you are a Conservative in Ca. you pay a higher dividend for your existence.
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