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Reply #30 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 6:13pm
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kangkongking wrote on Feb 6th, 2009 at 6:02pm:
it's not just about mass every Sunday that's spreading the word of god. it's also about missionaries on religious missions go to different areas and teach and spread the word of the Lord. it's about peace corps spreading peace and volunteers that teaches children about the word of God. it's not just about praying but also doing good. and these people i believe, are the church.


Does mass spread the word of God?
  

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Reply #31 - Feb 6th, 2009 at 6:25pm
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you have a point.  Cheesy but you know, i bring friends with me during mass. friends who are in doubt and who are in the verge of not believing. so.. i think so.. in a way.  Smiley
  
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Re: What purpose is the Church?
Reply #32 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 9:48am
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Does mass spread the word of God?


Mass, and church services of all sorts, are ideally implicit invitations for anybody within reach of them to attend them. In other words... if you want to find out about the Word of God, you can do so by attending a church service.

Now, some churches can become overly comfortable closed communities - in other words, they're quite happy with the membership that they have right now, and they don't want to upset the group dynamics that they have going on by bringing new people into the fold. This is spiritually tragic, of course, as it causes the church to be more of an "old boys club" of sort than a primary instrument of spreading good news to the people. Once a church becomes an "old boys club" of sorts, its simply a closed-off Christian community - a place for some Christians to take spiritual comfort within, and also to provide them with a gathering place in which to socialize with others. Useful, but far from ideal.

I would say that almost everybody living in the western world is at least vaguely aware of Christianity, of Christianity's most basic principles and worldviews, and of where you can go to find out more about Christianity (i.e. churches). Hence, the implicit invitation of churches has value - they're there, in part, for when people start to give Christianity a second thought and decide to hence look into Christianity further.

However, Christians don't actively evangelize outside of a church setting much any more. Such a thing is necessary in order to effectively compliment the more passive form of evangelism offered by churches.

However, in fairness, Christians don't actively evangelize outside of a church setting much any more due to increased political correctness. In other words, if I started going door-to-door distributing Christian literature to people and trying to persuade them to become Christians while doing so, there's a very real chance that one or more of the people that I meet while doing that will complain to the government about my "bothersome" activities and try to shut me down. Heaven help me if I happen to run into a Muslim while doing so who makes a big stink about my actions...

I think that many Christians feel that more aggressive evangelism may even threaten our safer passive evangelism represented by the church. I think about many of the negative views about, and backlashes against, the relatively very evangelistic Jehovah's Witnesses.
  
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Re: What purpose is the Church?
Reply #33 - Feb 14th, 2009 at 12:24pm
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Triple_R wrote on Feb 14th, 2009 at 9:48am:
Mass, and church services of all sorts, are ideally implicit invitations for anybody within reach of them to attend them. In other words... if you want to find out about the Word of God, you can do so by attending a church service. 


I disagree right off the top.  They may be in the right culture.  However, they certainly would not have been in the early Church suffering persecution from Rome, the Church under communist rule in Russia, China, etc.
  

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Reply #34 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 5:31am
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I disagree right off the top.  They may be in the right culture.  However, they certainly would not have been in the early Church suffering persecution from Rome, the Church under communist rule in Russia, China, etc.


Why do you think that I focused on the western world? For churches to have the implicit invitation impact that I suggested, they must first exist in a culture where basic knowledge of Christianity is already widespread... as it is in the western world, but not necessarily in the examples that you listed.

I'll admit that the setting up of numerous churches is not the first step in spreading Christianity - the first step is making sure that as many people as possible are at least introduced to Christianity; that they at least have some basic knowledge about it. Hence, in Paul's time, the role of the traveling missionary is of great importance.

However, once basic knowledge of Christianity has spread, and you've already brought as many people into the Christian fold as you can through such spreading, then it's good to set up a large number of churches (at least one in each village, town, or city) - this is so that those left questioning will have a place that they can visit if they give Christianity a serious second look.

The Christian church has value, Mercy. Obviously the Christian church has value, or it would not be referenced directly by Jesus Christ on many occasions.

  
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Re: What purpose is the Church?
Reply #35 - Feb 15th, 2009 at 11:02pm
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Triple_R wrote on Feb 15th, 2009 at 5:31am:
Why do you think that I focused on the western world? For churches to have the implicit invitation impact that I suggested, they must first exist in a culture where basic knowledge of Christianity is already widespread... as it is in the western world, but not necessarily in the examples that you listed.

I'll admit that the setting up of numerous churches is not the first step in spreading Christianity - the first step is making sure that as many people as possible are at least introduced to Christianity; that they at least have some basic knowledge about it. Hence, in Paul's time, the role of the traveling missionary is of great importance.

However, once basic knowledge of Christianity has spread, and you've already brought as many people into the Christian fold as you can through such spreading, then it's good to set up a large number of churches (at least one in each village, town, or city) - this is so that those left questioning will have a place that they can visit if they give Christianity a serious second look.

The Christian church has value, Mercy. Obviously the Christian church has value, or it would not be referenced directly by Jesus Christ on many occasions.



But wait a minute...my response wasn't talking about the missional aspect of the Church but the church service.  Obviously the Church is missional, but is the church service designed to be "an invitation" in every situation?  I say no, for the reasons already stated.
  

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Re: What purpose is the Church?
Reply #36 - Feb 17th, 2009 at 10:57am
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But wait a minute...my response wasn't talking about the missional aspect of the Church but the church service.  Obviously the Church is missional, but is the church service designed to be "an invitation" in every situation?  I say no, for the reasons already stated.


Oh, I see what you're saying now.

Well, most church services I've attended have altar calls after the message. That may not exist outside of the Salvation Army, and the Pentecost, denominations, though. These are the only two churches I've personally attended.
  
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Re: What purpose is the Church?
Reply #37 - Mar 17th, 2009 at 8:54pm
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   What or who is the Church? My understanding to its purpose is salvation.  Its not a building as many know it, its what takes place in the building.
   Christ is salvation. The Temple or the Church both refer to salvation. Christ resides in the heart of man, two or more gathering in his name is Church, our bodies are Temples and within them can be our salvation if allowed. To sum it up Church is refered to by my opinion as the Bodys of cultures that live by way of "Church" people Undecided 
   Thats my understanding good or bad. What is rev refering to when it says "write these things and send them to the seven churches". I would think that the understanding of where these writings are to be sent, and the contents of the writings are key to true understanding of the Churches purpose. 
  
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