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Solar Executive Troll
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What Is A Conservative?
Oct 3rd, 2008 at 11:59pm
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Or better yet, what does it mean to be a Conservative?
I've noticed a few here are a bit confused as to what it means to be a Conservative., or what a True Conservative is.
So tell me what does it mean to you?
I'm not looking for cut n paste though.
Thanks in advance. Cool
  
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Solar Executive Troll
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #1 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:11am
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I might add, I'm not looking for great detail, just a short paragraph. Smiley
  
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GOD
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:15am
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I am fiscally conservative, like, ultra conservative.  "Conservative" nowadays seems to imply "Christian", which I am not.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:23am
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A person who believes and lives by taking personal responsibility.  Relying on oneself instead of any governmental agency.  Standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves.  Understanding that a close family unit is of the utmost importance to providing strength, courage and morals.  Being honest and having integrity no matter what the situation.  

That's pretty much what I feel.  In my life, I've had situations where I fell short of my own expectations.  I can only hope those days are in the rear view mirror.  There is nothing worse than holding people to a standard that you fall short of yourself.

Some would not consider me a real Conservative as I am an Atheist.  However, I respect people's faith and admire the satisfaction that have in their beliefs.  This goes directly back to being honest.  I simply don't believe and to say I do or act like I do would be dishonest.
  
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #5 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:27am
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A Conservative wants our government to return to the original understanding of the phrase the "general Welfare" in Article 1 Section 8 of our Constitution.
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If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.
Letter to John G. Jackson, Dec. 27, 1821 (Madison, 1865, III, pages 243-247)

  
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #6 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:27am
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I am in my fundamental premise an ante-Enlightenment conservative.  I reject, as articulated in both Locke and Hobbes, although obviously in different ways, the "autonomous individual" - an abstraction with abstract rights.  From my premise, there are very few conservatives today because both liberals and so-called conservatives, left and right, Democrats and Republicans, embrace and affirm the artificial and abstract notion of the autonomous individual along with his abstract rights.  The so-called left and right differ only how the polity of a non-society, i.e. a mass of autonomous individuals, is to be configured. 

My position is that all persons have their being and their worth in relationships expressed in the commonwealths into which they are born: as creatures of God, as members of a family, as members of the Church and as members of local communities along with the sub-commonwealths of those.  A true conservative is therefore is one who recognizes that any real meaning to life is to fulfill the obligations of the commonwealths into which he is born.  He is more concerned about his obligations to God - love God with all your heart, mind and body; his obligations to his parents - honor your parents that your days may be long upon the earth; to his wife - you and your wife shall be one flesh and what God hath joined together let no man put asunder as well as to his children and the rest of his kin; to his Church, which itself is the body and the bride of the Christ, and finally to the kith of his community.  An ante-Enlightenment conservative values the assets necessary to fulfill the obligations to the commonwealths to which he belongs.  He values a sense of oughtness which mitigates his compulsions and quest for his necessities over those of others; he has prudence; he has courage; he has temperance and ultimately justice in his dealings with others.  He has a sense of connectedness to place and people.  When he goes among strangers his first questions tend to be, "Where are you from?"  and "Who are your people?"  He is always questing for kinsmen and for those who know the dear kith.  Such a conservative is primarily focused on his own obligations and not on some set of abstract rights.  He is not questing to reform others through some "noble cause" such as "saving the world for democracy."  When such a conservative becomes political, it is indeed as a reactionary: he minds his own business - pleasing God, adoring his wife, carrying for his parents, nurturing and loving his children, rendering service to his Church and tending to his responsibilities in his local community.  He become "political" when someone attempts to undermine or destroy one of his commonwealths or attempts to interfere with their goings on.  He is not a Luddite; however, he is not a slave or worshiper of progress, of technology or of ways which take him too far from the soil, from hunting and gathering, and from the love of God, of family, of Church and of local community.

His antithesis is actually not the autonomous individual, who is a myth, but the alienated individual: the one who has bought into the myth of the autonomous individual and who by that myth has cut himself off from God, from family, from Church, from kith and from local community.  The alienated individual has a left and right form.  The right form of the alienated individual is the one who has "conservative values" but lives an alienated lifestyle like Newt Gingrich.  The left version in embodied in Brittney Spears or Barney Frank.
  

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Senator_Hatrack
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #8 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:44am
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Membership in a church or an organized religion is not a requirement to be a Conservative. A Conservative strongly believes as it states in Article VI the second paragraph of our Constitution;
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...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
  
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Solar Executive Troll
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Re: What Is A Conservative?
Reply #9 - Oct 4th, 2008 at 12:45am
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A person who believes and lives by taking personal responsibility.  Relying on oneself instead of any governmental agency.  Standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves.  Understanding that a close family unit is of the utmost importance to providing strength, courage and morals.  Being honest and having integrity no matter what the situation.  

That's pretty much what I feel.  In my life, I've had situations where I fell short of my own expectations.  I can only hope those days are in the rear view mirror.  There is nothing worse than holding people to a standard that you fall short of yourself.

Some would not consider me a real Conservative as I am an Atheist.  However, I respect people's faith and admire the satisfaction that have in their beliefs.  This goes directly back to being honest.  I simply don't believe and to say I do or act like I do would be dishonest.

Well said R2 This pretty much is how I see it also.
Thanks. Cool
  
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