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Re: I've finally been converted
Reply #60 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 6:30pm
 
DV wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 5:09pm:
Either that . . . or you rightly realize that there is A LOT about life and the universe that mankind simply does not understand. I suspect that you agree with me on this point. However, we part company at the next step. You fill in the blanks by making stuff up or by accepting made-up stuff. I don't. I accept the reality that I may go to my grave not knowing the answers.


And you presume that what I accept is true is made up.
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Reply #61 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 8:54pm
 
Mercy For All wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 6:30pm:
And you presume that what I accept is true is made up.

Only to the extent that you claim to have a "personal relationship" with a a guy who was said to have been tortured and murdered 2000 or so years ago, who you claim to be alive and to be the creator of the universe . . . if you do . . .
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Reply #62 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 9:36pm
 
DV wrote on Feb 8th, 2012 at 9:44am:
No surprise at all that you cop-out on that one!


Nope, no cop out. It's the basis upon why Jesus was born, died and rose again.
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Reply #63 - Feb 12th, 2012 at 9:42pm
 
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I am just saying that you shouldn't use it as a constant source of information the way I would tell a child to stop picking his nose.


We are on a RELIGION FORUM, right? If we were discussing science, I'd bring up scientific material, so I'm only following the vein of the thread.

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If that's what you call being obsessed then you have some serious trouble with reality.


Reading problems again? What I mentioned about obsession is your second time mentioning my butt. Slow tonight, Tenny?

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besides, if you're not going to answer my posts and instead write some unrelated borderline psychotic BS in response to them, then how about not quoting them at all?


Um, let's see. when I don't quote the Bible, you get made at me; If I do, you also get mad at me. Hmmm.

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Would that be too normal of a reaction to expect from the likes of you?


So what would you like me to do? Quote the Bible or not. Just let me know.
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Reply #64 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 1:17am
 
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You've obviously invented that last second revelation all by yourself. This may be a religion forum but as far as I know it isn't a fable forum or a tall tale forum, is it?


So II Thessalonians isn't from the Bible? Wow, news to me.
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I didn't mention anything, you did. I simply talked about anatomy and you made your own conclusions.

Yeah, right. Roll Eyes

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Odd, how you have trouble distinguishing what's real and what's the sheer product of your failing mental processes.


So what anatomy can't be mentioned in polite company?

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It's also quite ironic that you keep calling me by another poster's name while you are the proven liar about your nature. Uyr just identified you as a woman named "Maria" after you've had the scamming clumsiness of mentioning your wife and kids. If that doesn't qualify as being mentally bent then I don't know what does.
Show me where I mentioned the Bible, one way or another.


And both you and him are very much incorrect. But you definitely are Tenny or Tennebaum, as the official name was.
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I didn't mention the bible, at all. As I said before, you don't read too well or think for that matter. You are about as interesting to talk to as a potted plant.


Yet you follow me around the forum. Interesting.
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Re: I've finally been converted
Reply #65 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 3:41am
 
DV wrote on Feb 12th, 2012 at 8:54pm:
Only to the extent that you claim to have a "personal relationship" with a a guy who was said to have been tortured and murdered 2000 or so years ago, who you claim to be alive and to be the creator of the universe . . . if you do . . .


No, that's simplistic at best.  There is philosophical validity of the worldview, the testimony of ancient documents, the testimony of billions of others, as well as my corresponding experiences.  Of course, we've been through this before.  Let me steal somebody else's words to describe it:

"In Jesus we found not only great relief from the existential angst we carried, but experienced deep liberation for our souls.  Our lives were literally turned around, and all those old clichés became for us a profound reality: we were the lost and now found, we were the blind who could now see." (Alan & Debra Hirsch, untamed).

"All those old clichés [become] profound reality."  At the risk of sounding esoteric, I can't explain to you what I am confident is true.  There are people (like Alan & Debra Hirsch) who would not have understood either, but now they do.

It's certainly not as simple as "I believe this made-up stuff because it makes me feel better."
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Reply #66 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 8:36pm
 
Mercy For All wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 3:41am:
No, that's simplistic at best.  There is philosophical validity of the worldview, the testimony of ancient documents, the testimony of billions of others, as well as my corresponding experiences.  Of course, we've been through this before.  Let me steal somebody else's words to describe it:

"In Jesus we found not only great relief from the existential angst we carried, but experienced deep liberation for our souls.  Our lives were literally turned around, and all those old clichés became for us a profound reality: we were the lost and now found, we were the blind who could now see." (Alan & Debra Hirsch, untamed).

"All those old clichés [become] profound reality."  At the risk of sounding esoteric, I can't explain to you what I am confident is true.  There are people (like Alan & Debra Hirsch) who would not have understood either, but now they do.

It's certainly not as simple as "I believe this made-up stuff because it makes me feel better."

The reality is that the foregoing expression could be just as true and profound with the "Jesus" focus substituted with some other focus -- and you know it.
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Reply #67 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 2:31am
 
DV wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 8:36pm:
The reality is that the foregoing expression could be just as true and profound with the "Jesus" focus substituted with some other focus -- and you know it.


No, because without the Holy Spirit, we would have seen Jesus, much like you see Him, as just an ordinary man.
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Re: I've finally been converted
Reply #68 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 5:00am
 
DV wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 8:36pm:
The reality is that the foregoing expression could be just as true and profound with the "Jesus" focus substituted with some other focus -- and you know it.


No, because many of my experiences have been the same.  Add to that everything I mentioned before.
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Reply #69 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 6:58am
 
Writers_Block wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 2:31am:
No, because without the Holy Spirit, we would have seen Jesus, much like you see Him, as just an ordinary man.

Ahhhhh . . . . now you introduce a ghost . . . . well . . . . that makes it REALLY meaningful . . . LOL!!
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