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Re: Libs: Why should we VOTE for Obama?
Reply #40 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 1:52pm
 
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Free comedy as all you racist Republicans melt down and go full retard. You should never go full retard.


and the Democrats are not racists, right?
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Reply #41 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 1:55pm
 
Duane avaliable in half pints wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 7:49pm:
and education and contraception, and health care...


Thanks for listing several. I should have read the thread over. my apologies to you, Moses.  Wink


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Reply #42 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 1:56pm
 
Duane avaliable in half pints wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 7:54pm:
Grin Grin Grin Grin

As soon as he is backed into a corner he trots out the racist card[img]


Yeah, the race card was uncool.
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Reply #43 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 2:02pm
 
ransom wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 9:29pm:
Many are not exactly voting for some one. They are voting against some one.


True... Wouldnt it be fair to say they are voting ideology, if so?

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Thats whe Bamy won and may again if the pubs don't stop thier infighting and get a canidate that is not war happy. opps


Yeah~ the military warring with others has grown old, imo. I dont mind the warring within the Repubs. Let 'em eat each other. They need to get their duffs and mental faculties toughened up for combat when debating Obama because he will be prepared.
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Reply #44 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 3:36pm
 
DPR wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:07pm:
Obama will get my vote.
I disagree completely with the GOP on issues of abortion, choice and immigration, to list but a few.
I firmly believe in a woman’s right to choose to be pregnant or not, most especially during the first trimester. Nobody should be forced to carry a fetus to term, certainly not a victim of incest or sexual assault. We must rely upon a rational decision making process by the pregnant woman and whatever support system she might have. The decision to terminate a pregnancy during the second or third trimester should be a carefully considered medical decision. The ability to provide a reasonably reliable means of female contraception was one of the greatest achievements of mankind. The next step is to advance a reliable means of male contraception, without an invasive procedure.
An unwanted pregnancy results in an unwanted child. Relatively few of these children are adopted out. As shallow as it may seem; the majority of folks choosing to adopt want only the healthy, “blonde haired, blue eyed babies”, or a similar cultural / racial variant. Those of mixed race or with any variety of birth defects are typically rejected. A great many wind up as wards of the state and are raised by staff in a variety of social service agencies. Even those accepted into a familial foster care are often abused in one manner or another.
Most of those described above are put out on their own by age 18, and a great many of those just repeat the cycle. As a result of every policy dictating political correctness, respect of diversity, and theological belief, those staff are generally prevented from discussing any level of values and acceptable behaviors for fear of offending one group or another.
We – documented, card-carrying Americans – are never going to round up each and every undocumented individual and ship them out of the country. Even if it were possible to do just that, the legal system would be completely overwhelmed and rendered non-functional in short order. The cost would be prohibitive. Individuals brought here in infancy (a legal term for “infant” typically includes anyone under the age of 18 or 21) should not be penalized for the misdeeds of their parents. They have known no other society, regardless of their heritage.
In my years on this planet, I have twice sought the services of an abortionist and without a second thought afterwards. It was “our” choice to make. Further, I spent some 35 years in a variety of social services positions and learned well the agency and foster care systems.
With over 300 million in this country alone and some 6 billion plus on the planet, we can ill afford the lack of proper birth controls trumpeted by the GOP and their fanatical religious affiliates. While the pro-life crowd may despair the actions of those seeking to choose, they do very little other than vocalize their opposition. Ask pro-lifers for substantial funding for those social agencies caring for the unwated and guess their response.
As such, I have come to find myself at odds with the GOP and cannot in good faith help to elect any one of them into office.



Do I understand you to support the Democrats positions on immigration? And you feel very confident that they are correct concerning illegal immigrants? Republicans are wrong on immigration, right? What do they say which is wrong?

You spent a lot of time on contraceptives, abortion, adoption and contraceptives again... How did the contraceptive issue come up this election?

FYI, I agree with you that the pro-lifers do carry on about their position a bit more than I think is necessary. Probably some of them have had abortions too.   just sayin...

Last but not least, do you support Obamacare? If so, you do know that if the government can give you healthcare, the government legally can take it away, right? That is how law works. So my point is... (hypothetically speaking) If you are for and want an abortion and we have Obamacare, if the government decides you cant have the abortion, what then?

If the government can give you contraceptives, with Obamacare, the government legally has the right to take that away too. You do understand these legal issues, right? I ask because I notice you appreciate your freedom to medically do as you danged well please! Can't say I blame you so you and I agree on this point. I dont want Dems or Reps pushing their opinions on me, medically speaking.

Thanks for your post, DPR. Feel free to answer any questions I have asked or dont answer because I am delayed in answering so my apologies to you.
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Re: Libs: Why should we VOTE for Obama?
Reply #45 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 3:46pm
 
DPR wrote on Mar 9th, 2012 at 10:07pm:
Obama will get my vote.
I disagree completely with the GOP on issues of abortion, choice and immigration, to list but a few.
I firmly believe in a woman’s right to choose to be pregnant or not, most especially during the first trimester. Nobody should be forced to carry a fetus to term, certainly not a victim of incest or sexual assault. We must rely upon a rational decision making process by the pregnant woman and whatever support system she might have. The decision to terminate a pregnancy during the second or third trimester should be a carefully considered medical decision. The ability to provide a reasonably reliable means of female contraception was one of the greatest achievements of mankind. The next step is to advance a reliable means of male contraception, without an invasive procedure.
An unwanted pregnancy results in an unwanted child. Relatively few of these children are adopted out. As shallow as it may seem; the majority of folks choosing to adopt want only the healthy, “blonde haired, blue eyed babies”, or a similar cultural / racial variant. Those of mixed race or with any variety of birth defects are typically rejected. A great many wind up as wards of the state and are raised by staff in a variety of social service agencies. Even those accepted into a familial foster care are often abused in one manner or another.
Most of those described above are put out on their own by age 18, and a great many of those just repeat the cycle. As a result of every policy dictating political correctness, respect of diversity, and theological belief, those staff are generally prevented from discussing any level of values and acceptable behaviors for fear of offending one group or another.
We – documented, card-carrying Americans – are never going to round up each and every undocumented individual and ship them out of the country. Even if it were possible to do just that, the legal system would be completely overwhelmed and rendered non-functional in short order. The cost would be prohibitive. Individuals brought here in infancy (a legal term for “infant” typically includes anyone under the age of 18 or 21) should not be penalized for the misdeeds of their parents. They have known no other society, regardless of their heritage.
In my years on this planet, I have twice sought the services of an abortionist and without a second thought afterwards. It was “our” choice to make. Further, I spent some 35 years in a variety of social services positions and learned well the agency and foster care systems.
With over 300 million in this country alone and some 6 billion plus on the planet, we can ill afford the lack of proper birth controls trumpeted by the GOP and their fanatical religious affiliates. While the pro-life crowd may despair the actions of those seeking to choose, they do very little other than vocalize their opposition. Ask pro-lifers for substantial funding for those social agencies caring for the unwated and guess their response.
As such, I have come to find myself at odds with the GOP and cannot in good faith help to elect any one of them into office.



You do realize that abortion isn't even a ballot issue, right? And despite what you might imagine, Roe vs Wade will not be overturned in the future. To do so would violate the reasons that were given to pass this legislation and that was based upon privacy issues as well as the right to control your own body. Unless the government decides that a human being does not own themselves, Roe vs Wade will not be overturned. So you can stop sweating that issue.

But now you've stopped ranting (by means of word count limitation) I'd like to ask you what you feel Obama has done to benefit this country the past three or so years? Seems so far you're not voting FOR Obama but against the GOP. So now I'm asking you WHY should anyone vote for Obama, as the header says? Give me something positive he has done. And at no time can you mention the opposite party. This is solely about Obama. Now begin.
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Re: Libs: Why should we VOTE for Obama?
Reply #46 - Mar 10th, 2012 at 6:02pm
 
Writers_Block wrote on Mar 10th, 2012 at 3:46pm:
You do realize that abortion isn't even a ballot issue, right? And despite what you might imagine, Roe vs Wade will not be overturned in the future. To do so would violate the reasons that were given to pass this legislation and that was based upon privacy issues as well as the right to control your own body. Unless the government decides that a human being does not own themselves, Roe vs Wade will not be overturned. So you can stop sweating that issue.

But now you've stopped ranting (by means of word count limitation) I'd like to ask you what you feel Obama has done to benefit this country the past three or so years? Seems so far you're not voting FOR Obama but against the GOP. So now I'm asking you WHY should anyone vote for Obama, as the header says? Give me something positive he has done. And at no time can you mention the opposite party. This is solely about Obama. Now begin.


Corinthian, you're right abortion is not an issue this coming November.

I was hoping DPR would elaborate more about the positives Obama has accomplished for the betterment of this great country...

Could my thread title and intial post be a more challenging subject matter than I anticipated?  Smiley
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