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Possumpoint LNF Moderator LNF Bunker Offline Proud Member of the Doom & Gloom Club Posts: 2,735 Dumfries, VA, USA Gender:	Re: Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores Reply #1 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:30pm This was covered in previous thread on the Political Opinion Page. Thread title was "Small Business Could Soon Take Another Hit".
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Re: Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores
Reply #2 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:58pm

admin wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 7:34pm:

Rural kids, parents angry about Labor Dept. rule banning farm chores
http://news.yahoo.com/rural-kids-parents-angry-labor-dept-rule-banning-054605888...

-obama opposed to the family farm? -what will this do?

I heard about it. Crazy. I worked on a tobacco farm when I was 15. I drove a tractor as part of my job. We all chopped the plants down wit a hatchet. Some of the guys had to climb on beams to the top of the tobacco sheds ( barns) to hang the stuff to dry. About six plants were put on a piece of wood about 1/2 inch by 1 1/2 ( called spearing because a metal sharp metal point was put on the end of the wood, and as the plants were handed to the spear guy, he wood run the wood spear through the stalk so the plants hung upside down, about six on each slat. Then take the metal off for the next piece of wood and plants. Those are what they hung in the barn, all the way to the roof. It was hard work. Some danger. But I was able to buy my first motorcycle. A couple of girls worked with us, no one was hurt that I know of.
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Small Business could soon take another hit...
Reply #3 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:08am

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A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule...

-- http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule...

This proposed set of regulations would make it illegal for folks under 18 to perform many tasks that are vital to the operation of small family farms. With many rural farms working with such tight margins as it is, this could be potentially deadly many of these small businesses. Instead of hiring their children and other relatives helping out the family business, or other young people looking to start building their savings, these farmers will be forced to leave certain tasks undone, and potentially give up revenue, or hire older, more costly workers which could squeeze their margins to the point where farming is no longer a viable option for them.

This will cost many farmers a lot of money, put many out of business, and in the end increase the price we pay for food and other products that require some kind of farming.

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Re: Small Business could soon take another hit...
Reply #4 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:11am

west2004 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

-- http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule...

This proposed set of regulations would make it illegal for folks under 18 to perform many tasks that are vital to the operation of small family farms. With many rural farms working with such tight margins as it is, this could be potentially deadly many of these small businesses. Instead of hiring their children and other relatives helping out the family business, or other young people looking to start building their savings, these farmers will be forced to leave certain tasks undone, and potentially give up revenue, or hire older, more costly workers which could squeeze their margins to the point where farming is no longer a viable option for them.

This will cost many farmers a lot of money, put many out of business, and in the end increase the price we pay for food and other products that require some kind of farming.

Chores are performed free of charge. That's why they are a 'chore'.

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Re: Small Business could soon take another hit...
Reply #7 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:19am

Possumpoint wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

I thought that this was a safety issue. The jobs listed are ones considered dangerous and in fact some have resulted in deaths for children.

Yes, it is being done in the name of safety. But some of the regulations are vague and over-reaching.

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Clark said the regulations are vague and meddlesome.

“It’s so far-reaching,” he exclaimed, “kids would be prohibited from working on anything ‘power take-off’ driven, and anything with a work-height over six feet — which would include the tractor I’m on now.”

The way the regulations are currently written, he added, would prohibit children under 16 from using battery powered screwdrivers, since their motors, like those of a tractor, are defined as “power take-off driven.”

And jobs that could “inflict pain on an animal” would also be off-limits for kids. But “inflicting pain,” Clark explained, is left undefined: If it included something like putting a halter on a steer, 4-H and FFA animal shows would be a thing of the past.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/rural-kids-parents-angry-about-labor-dept-rule...

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Re: Small Business could soon take another hit...
Reply #8 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:26pm

Possumpoint wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

I thought that this was a safety issue. The jobs listed are ones considered dangerous and in fact some have resulted in deaths for children.

Really! Do you have numbers to support the un-Constitutional power grab that the feds are exercising on a family. Last time I looked the children are the rights of the parents authority not that of this communist state.

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Re: Small Business could soon take another hit...
Reply #9 - Apr 26^th, 2012 at 7:27pm

Seawolf wrote on Apr 26^th, 2012 at 4:26pm:

Really! Do you have numbers to support the un-Constitutional power grab that the feds are exercising on a family. Last time I looked the children are the rights of the parents authority not that of this communist state.

Unconstitutional in what way? If the government decides that certain activities are dangerous and not allow children to do them the parents run the risk of putting them in harm's way.

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