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TowardLiberty

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The fair and balanced paradigm..
Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:03am

is broken.

These talk shows that focus on politics always have someone from both the left and the right, or rather someone from both political parties, to discuss both sides of every issue.

It is thought that both sides of the issue deserve time to make their case.

This paradigm is broke and has been for a long time.

That is not fair and balanced.

The real paradigm is between the state and the individual. So a truly fair and balanced view would need to incorporate the views of the individualist.

It is enough to have one person representing the statist view. Doesn't matter if they are republicans or democrats.

Those morons are interchangeable.

What needs to be added to the political debate is a consistent and principled voice for liberty and free markets. A voice for a stateless society.

This is the true paradigm. This is the true debate we are having.

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Genesee LNF Speaker LNF Bunker Offline All in the name of liberty... Posts: 10,986 Gender:	Re: The fair and balanced paradigm.. Reply #1 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:05am You mean they should throw an anarchist into the mix?
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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #2 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:07am

Genesee wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:05am:

You mean they should throw an anarchist into the mix?

Yes.

Or at the least someone who is a strong minarchist.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Genesee LNF Speaker LNF Bunker Offline All in the name of liberty... Posts: 10,986 Gender:	Re: The fair and balanced paradigm.. Reply #3 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:10am TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:07am: Yes. Or at the least someone who is a strong minarchist. Minarchist?
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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #4 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:18am

Genesee wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:10am:

Minarchist?

A minarchist is someone who believes that governments only job is to protect property rights.

So no other act of government would be considered just that is not in defense of property rights.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #5 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:21am

TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

A minarchist is someone who believes that governments only job is to protect property rights.

So no other act of government would be considered just that is not in defense of property rights.

As was described in our Declaration of Independence.
I have said for years that the US wasn't founded so much as a limited government as a limited anarchy.

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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #6 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:24am

duster wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:21am:

As was described in our Declaration of Independence.
I have said for years that the US wasn't founded so much as a limited government as a limited anarchy.

Yep, pretty much.

How I wold love to return to that system of government...

But then the problem arises for any society with limited government.... how do you keep it?

Perhaps the articles of confederation would have been a better framework for minarchy. I think the constitution created a beast that even it could not tame.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #7 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:29am

TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

A minarchist is someone who believes that governments only job is to protect property rights.

So no other act of government would be considered just that is not in defense of property rights.

That sounds like the right-wing, Conservative POV, which would already be represented.

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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #8 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:33am

Genesee wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:29am:

That sounds like the right-wing, Conservative POV, which would already be represented.

I beg to differ on that.

The GOP supports many policies that a minarchist would recoil from.

Bailouts, the drug war, central banking, subsidies, IP laws, public programs, and on and on and on.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: The fair and balanced paradigm..
Reply #9 - Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:45am

TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 28^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

Yes.

Or at the least someone who is a strong minarchist.

Even a mini-archist like Jefferson recognized the need for a "State".

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch4s34.html

No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to. Let the national government be entrusted with the defence of the nation, and its foreign and federal relations; the State governments with the civil rights, laws, police, and administration of what concerns the State generally; the counties with the local concerns of the counties, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the great national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. What has destroyed liberty and the rights of man in every government which has ever existed under the sun? The generalizing and concentrating all cares and power into one body, no matter whether of the autocrats of Russia or France, or of the aristocrats of a Venetian senate.

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