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Self-radicalizing Harry LNF Speaker LNF Bunker Online I used to be Bert, but something went terribly wro Posts: 19,637 Gender:	Re: Are you patriotic? Reply #100 - May 10^th, 2012 at 10:35am Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:31am: Excellent! So then there is a right of privacy, and the constitution protects it! The constitution cannot protect that which is an impossibility to begin with.
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Self-radicalizing Harry LNF Speaker LNF Bunker Online I used to be Bert, but something went terribly wro Posts: 19,637 Gender:	Re: Are you patriotic? Reply #102 - May 10^th, 2012 at 10:36am Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:35am: Your conservative friend disagrees. No he doesn't.
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Reply #103 - May 10^th, 2012 at 10:38am

Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:31am:

Excellent! So then there is a right of privacy, and the constitution protects it!

To the extent that you are not infringing on the rights of another. The constitution protects the rights of everyone. You do not have a right to kill someone in your pursuit of happiness just because it is done in private, as they, of course, have a right to their own life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

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Reply #104 - May 10^th, 2012 at 10:44am

Self-radicalizing Harry wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

No he doesn't.

Obviously, he does.
west2004 wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

To the extent that you are not infringing on the rights of another. The constitution protects the rights of everyone. You do not have a right to kill someone in your pursuit of happiness just because it is done in private, as they, of course, have a right to their own life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

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Self-radicalizing Harry LNF Speaker LNF Bunker Online I used to be Bert, but something went terribly wro Posts: 19,637 Gender:	Re: Are you patriotic? Reply #105 - May 10^th, 2012 at 10:50am Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:44am: Obviously, he does. Nothing he says there disagrees with me. In fact, I posted much the same thing a couple of days ago. You are either extremely lacking in reading comprehension skills, or extremely dishonest. Which is it?
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Reply #106 - May 10^th, 2012 at 11:13am

Self-radicalizing Harry wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 10:50am:

Nothing he says there disagrees with me. In fact, I posted much the same thing a couple of days ago.

You are either extremely lacking in reading comprehension skills, or extremely dishonest. Which is it?

If you're a renter then you obviously don't own the property you're living in. Yet renter laws forbid your landlord from walking in anytime he wants to unless he can show cause to believe you're damaging his property or doing something criminal. So his acces to his own property is limited. But based on what? Certainly not the concept of the primacy of private property rights, because it's his property. So what are relevant renter protection laws based on that keep him from walking in at whim? Obviously the renter's right to privacy.

Your friend implied such in what he said: '[A right to privacy exists] as long as its exercise doesn't infringe on the rights of another.' A statement which applies to all rights.

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Reply #107 - May 10^th, 2012 at 11:17am

did some one say log cabin republicans?

“That the president has chosen today, when LGBT Americans are mourning the passage of Amendment One, to finally speak up for marriage equality is offensive and callous,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch. This administration has manipulated LGBT families for political gain as much as anybody, and after his campaign’s ridiculous contortions to deny support for marriage equality this week he does not deserve praise for an announcement that comes a day late and a dollar short.”

http://www.logcabin.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=nsKSL7PMLpF&b=6420733&ct...

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Reply #108 - May 10^th, 2012 at 11:18am

Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

If you're a renter then you obviously don't own the property you're living in. Yet renter laws forbid your landlord from walking in anytime he wants to unless he can show cause to believe you're damaging his property or doing something criminal. So his acces to his own property is limited. But based on what? Certainly not the concept of the primacy of private property rights, because it's his property. So what are relevant renter protection laws based on that keep him from walking in at whim? Obviously the renter's right to privacy.

The government determining something to be a right, does not make it a right.

That person should have a right to his property "on a whim". And if the renter is against that, they should put such language in the rental agreement.

However, a rental is a commercial interaction, and as such, each state is able to regulate such action and require certain clauses be included in the contracts for this interaction.

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Reply #109 - May 10^th, 2012 at 11:19am

Sandy wrote on May 10^th, 2012 at 11:13am:

If you're a renter then you obviously don't own the property you're living in. Yet renter laws forbid your landlord from walking in anytime he wants to unless he can show cause to believe you're damaging his property or doing something criminal. So his acces to his own property is limited. But based on what? Certainly not the concept of the primacy of private property rights, because it's his property. So what are relevant renter protection laws based on that keep him from walking in at whim? Obviously the renter's right to privacy.

Your friend implied such in what he said: '[A right to privacy exists] as long as its exercise doesn't infringe on the rights of another.' A statement which applies to all rights.

None of what you've written has anything to do with privacy, but instead the protection of property rights. If I rent, and abide by the conditions in that rental agreement, the rental property is mine during the duration of said agreement.

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