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Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
May 18th, 2012 at 12:57pm
 
"I am not familiar, precisely, with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was."

He was talking about his not wanting to have the rev. Wright issue brought up by super PACs.  When a reporter asked him about having done just that a few months ago, that was his reply.

Is this any different from Kerry's "I was for it before I was against it" or Pelosi's "we'll have to pass the bill in order to find out what's in it"?
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #1 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:07pm
 
forgotten centrist wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:57pm:
"I am not familiar, precisely, with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was."

He was talking about his not wanting to have the rev. Wright issue brought up by super PACs.  When a reporter asked him about having done just that a few months ago, that was his reply.

Is this any different from Kerry's "I was for it before I was against it" or Pelosi's "we'll have to pass the bill in order to find out what's in it"?


Completely different... I suppose you've never forgotten making a comment.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #2 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:14pm
 
This is no-win for him because he forgot his exact quote.

Imagine if he had said he'd need to hear his quote again before saying whether or not he "stood by" it.

That would be called a gaffe as well. Even if he doesn't remember his words, doesn't he know whether or not he was lying or insincere?

He doesn't remember his exact quote, but he is certain he was being honest or insincere.

I see no gaffe here. It would be different if he was standing by what someone else said, even if he couldn't recall the quote being discussed, but standing by your own words even if you don't recall them? I don't really see the issue.
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Reply #3 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
The gaffe reveals that he's triangulating as cunningly as ole Bubba Clinton.  He brought up Wright a couple months back, now some super PACs are shining a bright light on Wright and Romney gets to play the cool one and say "I don't approve of this" when in fact he did exactly the same thing months ago.

He's clearly trying to keep the Wright issue lit while simultaneously disavowing it, and apparently he forgot whatever phrasing his handlers had coached him on prior to talking to this reporter.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #4 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:24pm
 
forgotten centrist wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:19pm:
The gaffe reveals that he's triangulating as cunningly as ole Bubba Clinton.  He brought up Wright a couple months back, now some super PACs are shining a bright light on Wright and Romney gets to play the cool one and say "I don't approve of this" when in fact he did exactly the same thing months ago.

He's clearly trying to keep the Wright issue lit while simultaneously disavowing it, and apparently he forgot whatever phrasing his handlers had coached him on prior to talking to this reporter.


I really don't know about any of this. All I have is your above quote and even it isn't sourced. The quote to me doesn't seem like a gaffe.

If Romney has publicly trashed Wright while also disavowing such trashing, then he's shown some hyporcrisy, sure.

I guess I'm mising something.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #5 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:45pm
 
Is there a video?  Sourced transcript?  It is really hard to gather what he said in the past about Wright, and what he is currently opposing and standing by.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #6 - May 18th, 2012 at 1:50pm
 
Here is more...

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Thanks to an ad campaign that will no longer even happen, the presidential race's topic of the day is Reverend Jeremiah Wright and, more specifically, Mitt Romney's difficulty deciding whether Wright's relationship with President Obama is a legitimate issue. After the Times broke word of the prospective Wright ads this morning, Romney told Town Hall that he "repudiate[s] the effort by that PAC to promote an ad strategy of the nature they've described." Romney's campaign manager, Matt Rhoades, also released a statement proclaiming, "Gov. Romney is running a campaign based on jobs and the economy, and we encourage everyone else to do the same."

And yet, back in February on Sean Hannity's radio show, Romney himself criticized Obama for "listening to Reverend Wright." You can see there's something of a message clash here. So, at a press conference this afternoon, inquiring minds wanted to know: Does Romney still stand by his remarks to Hannity? Romney concurred, in a most Seussian fashion, that he does:

    "I’m not familiar precisely with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was."



http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/05/mitt-romney-stand-by-what-i-said.html?mid=r...
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #7 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:04pm
 
forgotten centrist wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 1:50pm:



There is a little bit of hypocrisy in what Romney said regarding making reverend Wright an issue (maybe he evolved), but there is also a difference between a small comment on Hannity's radio show and a multi-million dollar ad campaign.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #8 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:08pm
 
Romney, in an interview, was critical of Obama listening to Wright.

Romney later opposed an ad that was described to him about Wright.

Romney's spokesman says they want to keep the campaign about the economy.

Ok, again, I don't really see the fuss. You can make a criticism about something and still...

A. disavow the way in which another person is critical of the same topic and...

B. not want the campaign to center on the one criticism you made.

I, for example, have been critical of Obama on this forum while also being critical of the way in which others criticize him.

I have also been critical of him on issues which I think are minor and would never put into a campaign ad.

I really don't see the fuss. I guess you can say he's trying to have it both ways, which is possible. I'll concede that.
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Re: Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?
Reply #9 - May 18th, 2012 at 2:18pm
 
forgotten centrist wrote on May 18th, 2012 at 12:57pm:
"I am not familiar, precisely, with exactly what I said, but I stand by what I said, whatever it was."

Romney gaffe - on par with Kerry and Pelosi?




No, because it not a gaffe at all. I'll even take it
a step further and say that he might just have avoided one.

The person he was talking to (a lady reporter) brought up something
said in an interview done by Hannity months ago.
Romney simply told the person he didn't recall exactly what
he said. He didn't necessarily need be able to recite the
content itself to be confident what he said was OK.
Unless he was 100% sure of what he said "and" from
which context it was said, he could have made a serious
error trying to give the reporter what she wanted.


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