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Question 8 for Christians (Read 567 times)
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Re: Question 8 for Christians
Reply #20 - Jun 18th, 2012 at 3:28pm
 
patrick2 wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 1:36am:
The thrust of my bringing that up is to emphasize that from the standpoint of a "neutral" person looking at all major religions, in most important aspects they all look the same.


Until you do some serious investigation.  They are significantly different.

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That was a manner of speaking.  It seems you need super-literal language to communicate.  Avoid those deadly metaphors.

Hokkkkkay:  A CAREFUL AND SCHOLARLY STUDY OF THE MAJOR RELIGIONS, FOCUSSING PARTICULARLY ON THEIR SACRED SCRIPTURES, WOULD MAKE IT APPEAR THAT THE CHOICE, IF ANY, OF THE RELIGIONS CONSEQUENTLY SUBSCRIBED TO WOULD BE TO A HIGH DEGREE ARBITRARY.

There - did I leave out a proposition or something?


"Throwing darts" implies random selection in contrast to investigation.  Surely this is apparent.  This is not at all about being "super-literal."
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Reply #21 - Jun 19th, 2012 at 1:21pm
 
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Until you do some serious investigation.  They are significantly different.

But the similarities are what jump off the page. And they ultimately involve a delusion. For example, your delusion is the belief that a guy who was tortured and murder 2000 years ago rose from the dead, floated up high into the sky on a cloud, lives as a god, and that you have a personal relationship with this invisible being.

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Re: Question 8 for Christians
Reply #22 - Jun 22nd, 2012 at 9:30pm
 
DV wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 1:21pm:
But the similarities are what jump off the page. And they ultimately involve a delusion. For example, your delusion is the belief that a guy who was tortured and murder 2000 years ago rose from the dead, floated up high into the sky on a cloud, lives as a god, and that you have a personal relationship with this invisible being.



The similarities might "jump off the page" but they are significantly different.  If you make cursory decisions about the most important questions in life, then maybe what "jumps off the page" is good enough for you.  But they are certainly significantly different.
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Re: Question 8 for Christians
Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 12:51pm
 
Mercy For All wrote on Jun 22nd, 2012 at 9:30pm:
The similarities might "jump off the page" but they are significantly different.  If you make cursory decisions about the most important questions in life, then maybe what "jumps off the page" is good enough for you.  But they are certainly significantly different.

As I stated, the similarity involves the use of the mechanism of delusion, period. I agree that the fodder that makes up the delusion is significantly different. The finer points of your religious delusion are no doubt significantly different from those of the ancient Egyptians, for example.
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Re: Question 8 for Christians
Reply #24 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 3:54pm
 
DV wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 1:21pm:
But the similarities are what jump off the page. And they ultimately involve a delusion. For example, your delusion is the belief that a guy who was tortured and murder 2000 years ago rose from the dead, floated up high into the sky on a cloud, lives as a god, and that you have a personal relationship with this invisible being.

So Christians and Darwinists are both deluded.

What do you believe in now that we know what you have exluded?

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Re: Question 8 for Christians
Reply #25 - Jun 26th, 2012 at 4:23pm
 
DV wrote on Jun 26th, 2012 at 12:51pm:
As I stated, the similarity involves the use of the mechanism of delusion, period. I agree that the fodder that makes up the delusion is significantly different. The finer points of your religious delusion are no doubt significantly different from those of the ancient Egyptians, for example.


And your delusion is that empirical verification is the only adequate means of ascertaining truth.  It's circular and self-defeating.  Unless, of course, you place your faith in the efficacy of empirical verification as the only adequate means of ascertaining truth--a metaphysical trust, to be sure, since it cannot be empirically verified as the only adequate means of ascertaining truth.

And, by the way, you writing off my experiences as delusion seems to indicate a lot more than you could possibly know.
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