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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #10 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 12:57pm

Jack Fate wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Fascinating. Are there any American Presidents that you like? I really admire George Washington.

There are certainly some worse than others.

But to answer your question- the answer is no.

I cant support the office, nor any man who thinks he deserves to fill it.

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Jack Fate LNF Representative2 Offline I Love Liberty News Forum! Posts: 2,732	Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class Reply #11 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 12:58pm TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 12:57pm: There are certainly some worse than others. But to answer your question- the answer is no. I cant support the office, nor any man who thinks he deserves to fill it. Fascinating. What is your idea of govt that works?
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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #12 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:02pm

Jack Fate wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 12:58pm:

Fascinating. What is your idea of govt that works?

None at all.

I am against all public provision of services and support a completely free market society.

Law, police services, money, roads, property rights and so on would all be privately produced and funded.

So the idea of authority of one man over another would be seen as anachronistic the same way slavery is today.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Duanes Wearing Velvet Pants Hardhat LNF Bunker Offline I'm Harry. Really I am! Posts: 103,105 Knepper On The Green	Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class Reply #13 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:03pm And this is going to make people come round to their way of thinking. Philadelphia gays are stupid...
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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #14 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:06pm

TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:02pm:

None at all.

I am against all public provision of services and support a completely free market society.

Law, police services, money, roads, property rights and so on would all be privately produced and funded.

So the idea of authority of one man over another would be seen as anachronistic the same way slavery is today.

Who is going to make the decision on which police force to hire?

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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #15 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:09pm

Jack Fate wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:06pm:

Who is going to make the decision on which police force to hire?

The homeowner, business owner or perhaps the HOA.

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Jack Fate LNF Representative2 Offline I Love Liberty News Forum! Posts: 2,732	Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class Reply #16 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:16pm TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:09pm: The homeowner, business owner or perhaps the HOA. Who is going to make the laws that the police enforce?
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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #17 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:26pm

Jack Fate wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:16pm:

Who is going to make the laws that the police enforce?

Law entrepreneurs.

We can turn to the evolution of customary law in pre-Norman England, or the early Irish private law.

There is even a history of private law in medieval Iceland.

For a modern example we can turn to international commercial law.

So essentially we are talking about a system of law based on private arbitration and competing judges. Judges who have no authority to mandate anything. All they can do is make a judgement.

Society can enforce these judgements through ostracism and nothing else.

There would be no legal use of violence or aggression.

The only justified use of violence in this society would be in self defense.

I realize this sounds crazy and I know that I am not doing justice to these views. If you generally want to know more about this line of thinking check out Chaos Theory by Robert Murphy. It is 70 some odd pages of analysis and argumentation about how law, police and defense would work without the state.

If you Google the title plus .pdf you can read it for free!

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #18 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 2:11pm

TowardLiberty wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Law entrepreneurs.

We can turn to the evolution of customary law in pre-Norman England, or the early Irish private law.

There is even a history of private law in medieval Iceland.

For a modern example we can turn to international commercial law.

So essentially we are talking about a system of law based on private arbitration and competing judges. Judges who have no authority to mandate anything. All they can do is make a judgement.

Society can enforce these judgements through ostracism and nothing else.

There would be no legal use of violence or aggression.

The only justified use of violence in this society would be in self defense.

I realize this sounds crazy and I know that I am not doing justice to these views. If you generally want to know more about this line of thinking check out Chaos Theory by Robert Murphy. It is 70 some odd pages of analysis and argumentation about how law, police and defense would work without the state.

If you Google the title plus .pdf you can read it for free!

And unicorns. Lots of unicorns.

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Re: Gay Activists @ White House = No Class
Reply #19 - Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 2:21pm

PeterR wrote on Jun 22^nd, 2012 at 2:11pm:

And unicorns. Lots of unicorns.

Unicorns dont exist.

Private law does.

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"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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