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Reply #10 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 5:49am

just_me wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 11:34pm:

Just because some one doesn't vote for Romney doesn't make them a liberal. I have voted both D and R over the years. Makes me an independent. I vote for a person,not a party. Being a senior like many i can't vote for Romney. Bama may not do any better but he doesn't want to throw the seniors and disabled under the bus altho he has flip flopped on the subject and we have no idea if that is only to get the seniors vote. Guess we will find out soon enough. I for one do not believe much of what a politician says when running for office as each party tries to tell what thier locksteppers want to hear.

If there is one thing i have come to accept over the years is one never knows what they are getting until they are in office and then it is too late.

That how i feel and can't change it due to past experience.

Another lie. Look old man... I'm sick and tired of paying my hard earned tax dollars into schemes that are looted annually and won't even be there when it comes my turn to collect. And if this Clown gets reelected, you can bet your ass that'll be the least of our problems. There's an economic recession 5 times worse than the one we're in somewhere in our near future, and maybe even an total economic collapse if this bozo get's reelected, then you'll be crawling out the back door of the convalescence center digging up worms and trying to catch crickets for your last week on planet earth, because it's every man/clan for himself/themselves at that point! There's no more check, or Johnny showing up at the door with your perscriptions, or life alert calling back to hear you say "I've fallen and I can't get up". It'll be survival of the fittest. Is that the world you want for your kids and grandkids? So buck up and prove you're the greatest generation by standing up for the next generation instead of being so selfish and vote this socialist clown out of office!

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #11 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 5:52am

just_me wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 11:34pm:

Just because some one doesn't vote for Romney doesn't make them a liberal. I have voted both D and R over the years. Makes me an independent. I vote for a person,not a party. Being a senior like many i can't vote for Romney. Bama may not do any better but he doesn't want to throw the seniors and disabled under the bus altho he has flip flopped on the subject and we have no idea if that is only to get the seniors vote. Guess we will find out soon enough. I for one do not believe much of what a politician says when running for office as each party tries to tell what thier locksteppers want to hear.

If there is one thing i have come to accept over the years is one never knows what they are getting until they are in office and then it is too late.

That how i feel and can't change it due to past experience.

That's all fine and dandy, but just how has Romney thrown seniors under the bus? The way I look at, over the past four years obama has done a good job of that. Give him another four years, and senior health care will be totally in the hands of govt workers who are not health professionals or family members. We need someone who is willing to change or repeal obamacare.

I do think your political tendencies lean more to the liberal than the moderate or conservative side. You seem to ignore the fact that obama raided $700 billion plus from senior's medicare. You might have voted republican in the past, just as I've voted dem in the past at times, but I bet the majority of your voting has been dem. Of course, I could be wrong, but we'll never know.

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #13 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:52am

just_me wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 1:54am:

If you do not understand how greed drives prices up,thats hard for me to understand. Night.

No.

That doesnt even come close to making sense.

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #14 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 11:55am

TowardLiberty wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 10:52am:

No.

That doesnt even come close to making sense.

he really does miss the whole idea, don't he?
if greed was the determining factor in price then someone would step in and cut the greed factor and the price
it is one reason wal-mart has worked for so long
give the people what they want at the lowest price
i live 20 miles from wal-mart but when we have to go to town we will stop in and save 30 bucks on a weeks worth or food

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #15 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:46pm

commanman wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 11:55am:

he really does miss the whole idea, don't he?
if greed was the determining factor in price then someone would step in and cut the greed factor and the price
it is one reason wal-mart has worked for so long
give the people what they want at the lowest price
i live 20 miles from wal-mart but when we have to go to town we will stop in and save 30 bucks on a weeks worth or food

He does.

He apparently has no clue that printing money causes inflation. For him, inflation is a result of the market process, of greed.

But as you say, greed would compel you to lower, rather than raise, your prices.

And he seems to be operating under the delusion that capitalists "set" prices, when in reality it is consumer preference and spending that determines prices.

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #16 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:54pm

TowardLiberty wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:46pm:

...And he seems to be operating under the delusion that capitalists "set" prices, when in reality it is consumer preference and spending that determines prices.

exactly right
we shop at "dollar general" and "family dollar" (which set side by side out here in the sticks) for things like soaps (bath, dish, dish washer, clothes... national brands but half the price that publix charges)
same goes for paper towels and the like

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #17 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:55pm

just_me wrote on Sep 20^th, 2012 at 11:34pm:

Just because some one doesn't vote for Romney doesn't make them a liberal. I have voted both D and R over the years. Makes me an independent. I vote for a person,not a party. Being a senior like many i can't vote for Romney. Bama may not do any better but he doesn't want to throw the seniors and disabled under the bus altho he has flip flopped on the subject and we have no idea if that is only to get the seniors vote. Guess we will find out soon enough. I for one do not believe much of what a politician says when running for office as each party tries to tell what thier locksteppers want to hear.

If there is one thing i have come to accept over the years is one never knows what they are getting until they are in office and then it is too late.

That how i feel and can't change it due to past experience.

With all respect sir, you say you can't vote for Romney. Why is that? Obama has stolen 700 billion from your Medicare, and Social Security has been insolvent for years. The new Obamacare program is going to put us another trillion in debt. You know what Obama has done, you know he is not going to change. He lies every day about Romney and republicans, pure lies. If you want to insure your income that you paid for, Medicare and Social security, I suggest you rethink your politics. Romney and Ryan have a plan to save these programs. Any one right now over the age of 55 will not be effected in any way. And the programs will be made solvent and there for future generations. I am sure you know you can't spend more than your income with out building debt that will eventually destroy you. So please reconsider , and vote intelligently for Romney and Ryan. Then you will be safe.
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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #18 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:57pm

commanman wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 12:54pm:

exactly right
we shop at "dollar general" and "family dollar" (which set side by side out here in the sticks) for things like soaps (bath, dish, dish washer, clothes... national brands but half the price that publix charges)
same goes for paper towels and the like

It is sad how lack of sound economic reasoning can so lead to such confusion about the nature of reality, and social processes.

This is why I see privatizing education as such a key goal in saving this civilization.

The state cannot be trusted to regulate something so vital as education, or money- for that matter!

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"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard

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Re: Anothe fact.
Reply #19 - Sep 21^st, 2012 at 1:37pm

commanman wrote on Sep 21^st, 2012 at 11:55am:

he really does miss the whole idea, don't he?
if greed was the determining factor in price then someone would step in and cut the greed factor and the price
it is one reason wal-mart has worked for so long
give the people what they want at the lowest price
i live 20 miles from wal-mart but when we have to go to town we will stop in and save 30 bucks on a weeks worth or food

Yeah wal mart really helps the Chinese worker. And BTW, it is doesn't he, not don't he.

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