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Re: House GOP Blinks
Reply #10 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 9:07am
 
Genesee wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 7:10am:
House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government

by Mike Flynn 11 Oct 2013

House Republicans have sent the White House a revised proposal to lift the debt ceiling for six weeks, as well as reopen government through December 15th, which was their original spending proposal before the partial shutdown. The revised GOP plan reflects the demands Obama made in a meeting with House GOP Leaders on Thursday. It also reflects the unwillingness of the DC GOP to face a fiscal showdown with Democrats.

Aside from reopening the government and agreeing to raise America's debt over the current $16.7 trillion limit, the Republicans made several other concession to President Obama and the Democrats. One such example is that Obamacare would receive funding. The Republicans would get to take out a portion of the president's signature legislation, but the law would substantially remain intact.

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/11/House-GOP-Caves-Will-Lift-Deb...

And there you have it.

It was always theater.

The GOP never stops our transition to a Centrally Planned nation. Sometimes it plays the role of slowing things down. Sometimes it's even on board to speed things up. But it never stops our descent into fascism / socialism, which makes it a damned useless organization.
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Reply #11 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 9:11am
 
ranger4life wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 8:55am:
Well I have been doing some reading and sadly don't know how to post links from my phone but Obamacare has been funded all along.It's considered a permanent entitlement and falls under the same guidelines as foodstamps social security and welfare. Do you know who get's hit the hardest? Disabled vets and the military. Their pay isn't considered a permanent entitlement. Vets won't get paid if the shut down continues and the military won't even get their midmonth pay for this month. Hell even the presidents $400,000 is considered a permanent entitlement. Congress has a law on the books saying they get paid as well. The original law was to prevent them from voting themselves a raise. Funny how they break that law when it suits them. It also protects them from pay cuts and loss of pay from shutdowns though.


I sympathize with the vets. Did the House succeed in getting vets funding during the shutdown, or did the Senate piss on that one too?

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Reply #12 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 9:18am
 
Genesee wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 9:11am:
I sympathize with the vets. Did the House succeed in getting vets funding during the shutdown, or did the Senate piss on that one too?




I'm not sure. I'll have to do some looking but last I read Obama was in it for all or nothing so it wouldn't have mattered.
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Reply #13 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 2:56pm
 
Genesee wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 7:10am:
House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt AND Reopen Government


by Mike Flynn 11 Oct 2013

House Republicans have sent the White House a revised proposal to lift the debt ceiling for six weeks, as well as reopen government through December 15th, which was their original spending proposal before the partial shutdown. The revised GOP plan reflects the demands Obama made in a meeting with House GOP Leaders on Thursday. It also reflects the unwillingness of the DC GOP to face a fiscal showdown with Democrats.

Aside from reopening the government and agreeing to raise America's debt over the current $16.7 trillion limit, the Republicans made several other concession to President Obama and the Democrats. One such example is that Obamacare would receive funding. The Republicans would get to take out a portion of the president's signature legislation, but the law would substantially remain intact.

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/11/House-GOP-Caves-Will-Lift-Deb...

And there you have it.


I was surprised it didn't happen sooner. They allowed some polling and harsh analysis to scare them
"yet once again." Their response was the exact opposite of what it should have been. The GOP should
have viewed the way the press was reporting the poll as a signal to turn the clamps down even tighter,
not loosen them.
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Reply #14 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 4:25pm
 
We don't have a final deal yet so not sure who blinked or caved or won. But if the House did blink or cave its time for new leaders with a backbone.
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Reply #15 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 6:24pm
 
I think if we can muzzle Harry Reid and Ted Cruz maybe we can get something done.
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Reply #16 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 6:35pm
 
bucky33 wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 6:24pm:
I think if we can muzzle Harry Reid and Ted Cruz maybe we can get something done.


I dont care for Reid, but you don't "muzzle" anyone.
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Reply #17 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 11:28pm
 
Freedom wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 4:25pm:
We don't have a final deal yet so not sure who blinked or caved or won. But if the House did blink or cave its time for new leaders with a backbone.


You're right, this hasn't really lead to a conclusion yet.
However, If the Republicans are indeed loosening, it is the wrong thing to do.
That NBC poll and the way its being presented just stinks of desperation.
The GOP should have seen that as a signal to tighten their grip, not loosen it.
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Reply #18 - Oct 13th, 2013 at 1:04am
 
glen65 wrote on Oct 12th, 2013 at 11:28pm:
You're right, this hasn't really lead to a conclusion yet.
However, If the Republicans are indeed loosening, it is the wrong thing to do.
That NBC poll and the way its being presented just stinks of desperation.
The GOP should have seen that as a signal to tighten their grip, not loosen it.

The GOP is nothing more than a bunch of spineless cowards.

It seems somewhere I read that Reagan wasnt much liked by the Republican/GOP party either and butted heads many times before he became POTUS.  Cruz hopefully will stand his ground and not be bullied into caving into these progressive freaks

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Reply #19 - Oct 13th, 2013 at 5:43am
 
AmericanMom wrote on Oct 13th, 2013 at 1:04am:
The GOP is nothing more than a bunch of spineless cowards.

It seems somewhere I read that Reagan wasnt much liked by the Republican/GOP party either and butted heads many times before he became POTUS.  Cruz hopefully will stand his ground and not be bullied into caving into these progressive freaks




Well now with veterams and military taking one on the chin yet again they had better. I see it here every day. Every time a soldier pulls out his or her bank or credit card Obama's name is surrounded by four letter words.
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