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Re: Archeological Finds.
Reply #70 - Sep 29th, 2015 at 6:35am
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Fiddler wrote on Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:51am:
No.. It's evidence of plate tectonics.



Not buying that anymore then you are buying mine.
  


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Reply #71 - Sep 29th, 2015 at 12:55pm
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Seawolf wrote on Sep 29th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Not buying that anymore then you are buying mine.


That's because you're a science illiterate.. One has to be in order to be religious.




  
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Reply #72 - Sep 29th, 2015 at 4:09pm
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Fiddler wrote on Sep 29th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
That's because you're a science illiterate.. One has to be in order to be religious.


Not the place for this, Fiddler. Start a thread on the Religion Forum.
  

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Reply #73 - Sep 30th, 2015 at 4:31pm
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Fiddler wrote on Sep 29th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
That's because you're a science illiterate.. One has to be in order to be religious.





Take it to the religion forum.
  


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Re: Archeological Finds.
Reply #74 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 6:50am
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If you deny God, then the Bible HAS to be filled with historical fallacies. That's just not the case. A historical find confirming the Weeping King in Isaiah.


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(CNN)A dump site is the last place you would expect to find an 8th century B.C. seal for a papyrus document signed by one of the kings of Judah.

Perhaps that's why it has taken 2,700 years for the piece of clay inscribed with King Hezekiah's seal to be discovered in Jerusalem.



It is believed to be the first-ever seal -- also referred to as a "bulla" -- from an Israeli or Judean King to be discovered by archaeologists.

"The seal of the king was so important. It could have been a matter of life or death, so it's hard to believe that anyone else had the permission to use the seal," Eilat Mazar, who directs excavations at the City of David's summit, told CNN.

"Therefore, it's very reasonable to assume we are talking about an impression made by the King himself, using his own ring.

"This the greatest single item I have ever found," added Mazar -- a third generation archaeologist.

The Ophel excavations were conducted at the foot of the southern wall of the Temple Mount.

The oval bulla -- which is 0.5 inches wide -- was discovered by a team from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Led by Mazar, the team were excavating an ancient dump near the Silwan neighborhood beside the wall that surrounds Jerusalem's Old City.

The site itself, along with the nearby City of David, is contentious, because it is an Israeli archaeological dig in East Jerusalem next to a Palestinian neighborhood. Critics say the dig is politically motivated to extend Jewish claims over East Jerusalem and the Old City: archaeological finds become historical justifications

Watch a video about the Ophel excavations here.

The seal is believed to have been discarded from a royal building, with the rubbish.

Related Video: Home of Goliath discovered? 01:12

The impression on the clay bears an inscription in ancient Hebrew script that translates as: "Belonging to Hezekiah [son of] Ahaz king of Judah."

It features a two-winged sun, with wings turned downward, flanked by two ankh symbols symbolizing life.

Other bullas bearing the name of King Hezekiah have been seen on the antiquities market. However, the others are not as important because they were not found by archaeologists and therefore may not be genuine, according to Mazar.

What we know about King Hezekiah

"The bible describes King Hezekiah as one of the most important kings after King David," said Mazar.

"He was rich, daring, stood up against Assyrians. A very impressive king," she added.

King Hezekiah -- who reigned from about 727 to 698 B.C. -- is certainly portrayed favorably in the Bible. The Book of Kings II 18:5 says of Hezekiah: "... after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah, nor among them that were before him."

It has been claimed that Hezekiah dedicated his reign to the reversal of the "idolatry" of his father. However, Hezekiah's newly discovered private seal, which bears the name of his father, suggests that Hezekiah valued this link.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/middleeast/king-hezekiah-royal-seal/
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Reply #75 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:58pm
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That's a very interesting find.
  

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Reply #76 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:00pm
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"It has been claimed that Hezekiah dedicated his reign to the reversal of the "idolatry" of his father. However, Hezekiah's newly discovered private seal, which bears the name of his father, suggests that Hezekiah valued this link."

I don't know why these two options should be mutually incompatible.
  

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Reply #77 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:04pm
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Mercy For All wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:00pm:
I don't know why these two options should be mutually incompatible.


I had the same thought.
  

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Re: Archeological Finds.
Reply #78 - Apr 24th, 2016 at 8:38am
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Ancient Letters Reveal Bible Bombshell

Parts likely written 2.6K years ago: study

By Arden Dier, Newser Staff

Posted Apr 12, 2016 7:33 AM CDT

(Newser) – "A full homer of wine, bring tomorrow; don't be late." That command, written on pottery excavated near the Dead Sea, not only shows soldiers liked to drink in the Kingdom of Judah around 600BC. It might also push back the date of the Old Testament. In analyzing 16 letters on pottery found at a fort in Arad, Israel, researchers at Tel Aviv University identified six authors, including the fort commander and a low-ranking quartermaster of the Judahite army. "And they wrote well, with hardly any mistakes," study author Israel Finkelstein tells the New York Times. This suggests literacy was widespread with perhaps hundreds of literate people in Judah at the time, which "is really quite amazing," Finkelstein tells Live Science. Experts have long believed there wasn't enough literacy for the majority of biblical texts to be inscribed before 586BC when Judah's capital of Jerusalem was destroyed and elites were exiled to Babylon.

In other words, these texts show parts of the Old Testament—including the Books of Isaiah, Amos, and Hosea, and parts of Genesis and Deuteronomy—could have been written earlier than previously thought. "Several (biblical) texts refer to events which best fit the reality in the years just before the fall of the Kingdom of Judah," Finkelstein says, per Discovery News, adding that some kind of educational system was likely in place. He thinks the "first Judahite biblical texts were most probably put in writing in Jerusalem by priests and officials in the entourage of the king." Some experts, however, say they may have been written even earlier, in the 9th and 8th centuries BC. (Your idea of the Last Supper is probably wrong.)

http://www.newser.com/story/223437/ancient-letters-reveal-bible-bombshell.html?i...
  


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Reply #79 - May 22nd, 2017 at 6:09pm
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In the National Archeological Museum in Leiden, Netherlands is found the Ipuwer Papyrus3.  The manuscript itself was discovered in Memphis, Egypt and dates to the 13th Century BC – or within a century or so after the Exodus plagues occurred. 

Ipuwer-papyrus-1

The similarities to the account of Exodus are striking4.



1. The Plague of Blood as mentioned in Exodus 7: 14-25

Ipuwer 2:3 “Pestilence is throughout the land, blood is everywhere.”

Ipuwer 2:9 “The River (Nile) is Blood. Men shrink…and thirst after water.”



2. The Plague on Egyptian Livestock as found in Exodus 9: 1-7

Ipuwer 5:5 “All animals, their hearts weep. Cattle moan.”



3. The Plague of Hail and Fire as mentioned in Exodus 9: 22-26

Ipuwer 9:23 “The fire ran along the ground. There was hail, and fire mingled with the hail.”

Ipuwer 2:10 “Forsooth (Help Us), gates, columns, and walls are consumed by fire.”



4. The Plague of Locusts as mentioned in Exodus 10: 1-20 (possible allusion)

Ipuwer 6:1: “No fruit nor herbs are found…Oh, that the earth would cease from noise, and tumult (uproar) be no more.”

Ipuwer 4:14: “Trees are destroyed and the branches are stripped off.”



5. The Plague of Darkness as mentioned in Exodus 10: 21-29

Ipuwer 9:11 “The land is without light.”



6. The Plague on Egypt’s Firstborn in Exodus 12

Ipuwer 2:13 “He who places his brother in the ground is everywhere.”

Ipuwer 3:14 “Groaning is throughout the land, mingled with lamentations.”

Ipuwer 4:3 “Forsooth, the children of princes are dashed against the walls.”

Ipuwer 6:12 “€œForsooth, the children of the princes are cast out in the streets.”



7. Freeing of the Slaves and their Pillage of Egypt as seen in Exodus 12: 31-36

Ipuwer 1: “The plunderer is everywhere, and the servant takes what he finds.”€

Ipuwer 2: “Indeed, poor men have become wealthy.”

Ipuwer 3: “Gold, silver and jewels are fastened to the necks of female slaves.”€

Ipuwer 5: “Slaves (who have now been freed) are throughout the land.”

Ipuwer 10: “€œThe king’€™s storehouse has now become common property.”

Now some Egyptologists will argue that the work is merely a poem, a kind of satire, or even a theodicy.  Further, they will say that the ultimate source for this papyrus must go much further back5than the period in which Moses is penning Exodus.  Even one of the sources we used to provide a translation for the Ipuwer text here holds this view6.

Quite frankly, I am not convinced they are correct.  Neither are other experts . It seems more likely to me that the Ipuwer Papyrus is an Egyptian version or recollection of the traumatic events described from Exodus 7 through Exodus 12.


http://christianevidences.org/archeological-evidence/eye-witness-testimony-suppo...
  


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