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Reply #90 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 2:35pm
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Back to the original topic. While it's definitely interesting when archeological finds back up a story in the bible, all it really backs up is that the historical aspect of the story is correct. It says whoever wrote that scrap of the bible (and it was not written by individuals btw) got an historical fact right. Or rather, the handed down historical fact was handed down intact, or close to it. BUT none of this has anything to do with Jesus or the existence of a god, or anything divine.
  
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Reply #91 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 1:37pm
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Muckster wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 2:35pm:
Back to the original topic. While it's definitely interesting when archeological finds back up a story in the bible, all it really backs up is that the historical aspect of the story is correct. It says whoever wrote that scrap of the bible (and it was not written by individuals btw) got an historical fact right. Or rather, the handed down historical fact was handed down intact, or close to it. BUT none of this has anything to do with Jesus or the existence of a god, or anything divine.


Patently false, if the Bible is full of errors then historically that claim could be validated and the Bible dismissed as nothing more then fables at best.
  


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Reply #92 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:40pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 18th, 2017 at 1:37pm:
Patently false, if the Bible is full of errors then historically that claim could be validated and the Bible dismissed as nothing more then fables at best.
I'm not saying it's full or errors. I'm saying the fact that there are historical facts to back up some of the things in the bible doesn't mean anything as to whether it the word of god, or that it's claims about Jesus being divine are true. Look at it this way...Mein Kampf contains all kinds of historically correct points. Doesn't mean Hitler was right. (And no I'm not comparing Hitler to Jesus or Christianity in general, I'm just making a generic point.)
  
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Reply #93 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 5:05pm
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Muckster wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
I'm not saying it's full or errors. I'm saying the fact that there are historical facts to back up some of the things in the bible doesn't mean anything as to whether it the word of god, or that it's claims about Jesus being divine are true. Look at it this way...Mein Kampf contains all kinds of historically correct points. Doesn't mean Hitler was right. (And no I'm not comparing Hitler to Jesus or Christianity in general, I'm just making a generic point.)

Yet I can go and read the book of Isaiah chapter 53 and read that it foretells the coming of the Messiah, his birth and his death.  A fulfilled prophesy that validates God's word.
  


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Reply #94 - Jul 7th, 2017 at 11:23am
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Seawolf wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 5:05pm:
Yet I can go and read the book of Isaiah chapter 53 and read that it foretells the coming of the Messiah, his birth and his death.  A fulfilled prophesy that validates God's word.


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Reply #95 - Aug 8th, 2017 at 11:11pm
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Reply #96 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 7:30am
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By James Rogers
Published August 07, 2017
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Lost Biblical city found?

Experts believe they have found the lost Roman city of Julias, formerly the village of Bethsaida, which was the home of Jesus' apostles Peter, Andrew and Philip.

Last month, archaeologists from the Kinneret Institute for Galilean Archaeology at Kinneret College, Israel and Nyack College in New York, completed excavations at el-Araj on the northern shore of the Sea of Galilee. El Araj has long been considered a possible location of ancient Julias, which was also known as Bethsaida.

“The results of this season’s excavation indicate that el-Araj should now be considered a leading candidate for the lost city of Jesus’ Apostles,” explained the excavation team, in a statement emailed to Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/08/07/lost-roman-city-that-was-home-to-jesus...
  


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Reply #97 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 11:39am
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Archaeology is very interesting but as Muckster correctly pointed out above, it does not support any claims about divinity.
  

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Reply #98 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 1:11pm
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Limey wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 11:39am:
Archaeology is very interesting but as Muckster correctly pointed out above, it does not support any claims about divinity.

It's another fact that substantuates the authority of scriptute.  As I have stated, if you can prove the scripture historically incorrect, all other statements are then proven suspect at best.  If you are an atheist, this does not help your case.
  


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Reply #99 - Aug 9th, 2017 at 9:30pm
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Seawolf wrote on Aug 9th, 2017 at 1:11pm:
It's another fact that substantuates the authority of scriptute.  As I have stated, if you can prove the scripture historically incorrect, all other statements are then proven suspect at best.  If you are an atheist, this does not help your case.



Sorry Seawolf but no.


You can dig up every city and show me the bones of Rahab, that doesn't help you to show the divinity of anything.


We already know that the Israelites were terrifying mass murderers, proving their awful crimes don't show God was the guilty party.
  

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