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Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:42pm
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #1 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:55pm
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Reply #2 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:57pm
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Redbeard wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 12:55pm:
And who is paying for it? Huh Huh



You beat me to it.  Read the demographics in the link.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #3 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:34pm
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Let me give you a real life example of the epic failure of this law.

I employ 30 people at this office. We provide what is called a Cadillac plan under this new law. We did it to attract good people, and we care for our people...we insure them, and even families, paying 90% of the premiums for great coverage.

Now, we must drop that plan in another year as we, and the employees will get hit with a 40% tax on the premiums paid, and also paid on their behalf. Yes, a double hit.

And, my cancer screening follow ups went from a 200 copay for bloodwork, CT scan and chest xray, to a 3500 up front deductible that must be met...and one visit uses all of it

So obamacare is forcing us as an employer to drop the good coverage we provided and our employees, and focusing them into plans with terrible coverage and much higher costs....Not to mention radically higher deductibles which further eats away at their discretionary income - which will take money out of the economy.

BUT, the three people who elected not take take coverage historically at our company will be forced into adding coverage or face increasing penaties...

so, in your world, it's a success, because our uninsured rate went down 10%. Do you understand why signups and % uninsured means very little to almost nothing.
  
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petep wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:34pm:
Let me give you a real life example of the epic failure of this law.

I employ 30 people at this office. We provide what is called a Cadillac plan under this new law. We did it to attract good people, and we care for our people...we insure them, and even families, paying 90% of the premiums for great coverage.

Now, we must drop that plan in another year as we, and the employees will get hit with a 40% tax on the premiums paid, and also paid on their behalf. Yes, a double hit.

And, my cancer screening follow ups went from a 200 copay for bloodwork, CT scan and chest xray, to a 3500 up front deductible that must be met...and one visit uses all of it

So obamacare is forcing us as an employer to drop the good coverage we provided and our employees, and focusing them into plans with terrible coverage and much higher costs....Not to mention radically higher deductibles which further eats away at their discretionary income - which will take money out of the economy.

BUT, the three people who elected not take take coverage historically at our company will be forced into adding coverage or face increasing penaties...

so, in your world, it's a success, because our uninsured rate went down 10%. Do you understand why signups and % uninsured means very little to almost nothing.



What is really sad about this whole deal is that th eprices are being driven up by other forces then the ACA like big pharma doubling, or tripling, the cost of cancer meds, etc. By doctors prescribing the higher cost meds instead of the just as effective generic meds because they get a "kick back".

And while this corruption is going the Republicans hold numerous hearings about the ACA, and yet continue to do NOTHING about the fraud just as they have never done in the past. IF the Republicans had spent half the time trying to fix Obamacare rather then waste time trying to repeal it, we might have seen a different result. The Democrats worked with the Republicans to fix Medicare Part D when it came out all screwed up, yet the Republicans would not do the same for Obamacare which the majority of was a Republican plan in 1986.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #5 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 4:32pm
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petep wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 1:34pm:
BUT, the three people who elected not take take coverage historically at our company will be forced into adding coverage or face increasing penaties...



So, what you are saying is that : THE LAW IS WORKING.  Before, you had people without insurance, and now, THEY ARE GETTING INSURANCE.  Your story is another ACA/Obamacare success story, thank you for relaying it to us and stressing how the previously uninsured now have health insurance.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:17pm
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Obamacare is a joke, and it should be repealed.

Health insurance is not and never has been a right.
  


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Jasmine wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:17pm:
Obamacare is a joke, and it should be repealed.

Health insurance is not and never has been a right.



That's right Jasmine. After all, your "god" said let the poor die.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:48pm
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Jasmine wrote on Jan 7th, 2015 at 7:17pm:
Obamacare is a joke, and it should be repealed.

Health insurance is not and never has been a right.


Would you say access to health CARE is a right?

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