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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #60 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:42pm
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As I said, the Repubs refuse to help fix the program so that the people could actually benefit. ALL they want to do is insure that their corporate friends profit, and profit heavily.


The democrats created those profits for corporate friends in the insurance industry.  With zero help from republicans.

But you are wrong that republicans refuse to fix it.  They have tried to pass fixes to the insurance company giveaways.  Unfortunately democrats blocked it.  Do you have a problem with democrats blocking that?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1726

  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #61 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 8:19pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 7:42pm:
The democrats created those profits for corporate friends in the insurance industry.  With zero help from republicans.

But you are wrong that republicans refuse to fix it.  They have tried to pass fixes to the insurance company giveaways.  Unfortunately democrats blocked it.  Do you have a problem with democrats blocking that?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s1726



How would that bill have fixed anything, and only one bill was presented on your link. Did you even read the part of the bill it alleged to fix? Well, here it is:

http://exchange.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/exchangenvgov/Content/About/ACA%20Codificat...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/18062

However, that is a good example of what the Republicans pass off as a "fix" to the gullible mindless.

Didn't we go through this bull shit, and lies, once before? And you still believe the crap.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #62 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:03pm
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Nice ad hominem.  But way wide the mark.

My Jesus healed the sick.  On His own.  While taking full responsibility for the cost of doing so.  And, of course, He deserves full credit (along with His Father) for a job well done.

He certainly would not take note of the sick man and choose to, rather than directly help, petition Ceasar to institute a law requiring the man to have health insurance while also requiring fellow other Judeans to pay a portion of the man's insurance in the hopes that the insurance will be acceptable to Him as a healthcare provider.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #63 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:34pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
Nice ad hominem.  But way wide the mark.

My Jesus healed the sick.  On His own.  While taking full responsibility for the cost of doing so.  And, of course, He deserves full credit (along with His Father) for a job well done.

He certainly would not take note of the sick man and choose to, rather than directly help, petition Ceasar to institute a law requiring the man to have health insurance while also requiring fellow other Judeans to pay a portion of the man's insurance in the hopes that the insurance will be acceptable to Him as a healthcare provider.


Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead for free.  Mayo Clinic will send you a bill for the same service I'm afraid.

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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #64 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:49pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead for free.  Mayo Clinic will send you a bill for the same service I'm afraid.

Greg

It's called reality.

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Reply #65 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:52pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead for free.  Mayo Clinic will send you a bill for the same service I'm afraid.

Greg


Not if they're enslaved, right?
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #66 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:56pm
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How would that bill have fixed anything,


It would have repealed the section of the law that allows the Department of HHS secretary to pay money to insurers who made bad predictions on the cost of treating their subscribers.  In short, it would repeal the bailout of insurers.


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and only one bill was presented on your link.


One is more than you gave them credit for.  But at the link you will find the related bills.  One attempt in the house and 2 more attempts to fix this problem in the Senate.

And here is another attempt.  Today in fact.

http://ribble.house.gov/press-release/rep-ribble-introduces-obamacare-txpayer-ba...

I am also told that there is a republican led effort to stop the IRS from giving subsidies in states with federal marketplaces.  We all know who those subsidies are going to, right?  Big insurance company profits.

So there is also that.

Here's some more action they have taken.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-house-republicans-havent-voted-50-times-to-...

That's from March, so there have probably been more since then.

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Did you even read the part of the bill it alleged to fix? Well, here it is:


Yes.

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However, that is a good example of what the Republicans pass off as a "fix" to the gullible mindless.

Didn't we go through this bull shit, and lies, once before? And you still believe the crap.


I have just shown you that it is not a lie.

Your beliefs that republicans are terrible for trying to repeal or fix the many problems with Obamacare, and are also terrible for not trying to repeal or fix the many problems with Obamacare are duly noted.  It is amazing that a person can hold such absolutely contradictory beliefs.

And what about the question I asked?  Do you think the democrats were wrong to oppose the fix(es)?
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #67 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:59pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:34pm:
Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead for free.  Mayo Clinic will send you a bill for the same service I'm afraid.

Greg


Yes.  The Mayo clinic has expenses of their own to pay.

Not everyone can be Jesus...

...how about the question I asked you earlier?  Regarding the purpose of your road comments.
  
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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #68 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 10:38pm
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And after the ER stabilizes you, which is all they are required to do, then what?


You have a lot to learn. Stop sucking up the democrat propaganda.

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Re: Uninsured rate sinking under Obamacare
Reply #69 - Jan 8th, 2015 at 11:04pm
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Jan 8th, 2015 at 9:03pm:
Nice ad hominem.  But way wide the mark.

My Jesus healed the sick.  On His own.  While taking full responsibility for the cost of doing so.  And, of course, He deserves full credit (along with His Father) for a job well done.

He certainly would not take note of the sick man and choose to, rather than directly help, petition Ceasar to institute a law requiring the man to have health insurance while also requiring fellow other Judeans to pay a portion of the man's insurance in the hopes that the insurance will be acceptable to Him as a healthcare provider.


So you believe in giving the poor free health care and food.

I see.

Grin Grin Grin
  
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