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Re: "Saudi cleric rejects that Earth revolves around the Sun"
Reply #160 - Mar 6th, 2015 at 7:43pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 7:13pm:
The Bible contains parables and states it when discussed.

How is that a response to the argument that it is a false choice to assume that just because Limey does not believe one part of the Bible that he therefore must not believe any of it?
  

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Re: "Saudi cleric rejects that Earth revolves around the Sun"
Reply #161 - Mar 6th, 2015 at 8:55pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 7:43pm:
How is that a response to the argument that it is a false choice to assume that just because Limey does not believe one part of the Bible that he therefore must not believe any of it?


It isn't.


You don't get a proper conversation on this stuff.

I suspect it's because these are intelligent people who have put themselves in an impossible position of faith which, to remain internally coherent, must deny some patently obvious truths.

Seawolf (who I generally like, despite his being a fish-head Conservative) turns a fair phrase on other topics, this one lets him down.
  

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Re: "Saudi cleric rejects that Earth revolves around the Sun"
Reply #162 - Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:37pm
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Limey. wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 8:55pm:
It isn't.


You don't get a proper conversation on this stuff.

I suspect it's because these are intelligent people who have put themselves in an impossible position of faith which, to remain internally coherent, must deny some patently obvious truths.

Seawolf (who I generally like, despite his being a fish-head Conservative) turns a fair phrase on other topics, this one lets him down.

Not sure what you mean by proper conversation.  I give you what I hold true and it may not make sense to you.  I understand.  To be honest I can not for the life of me understand how I can be criticized for believing there is a Creator when many think, as I have stated before, that nothing created life.  That is not logical to me.  It can not be replicated so I can not see how those who want evidence of God have to have greater faith that nothing creates life.  To me, that is the definition of an impossible position of faith.  I have no issues with you Limey and you have been fair in our discussion regarding this topic.
  


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Re: "Saudi cleric rejects that Earth revolves around the Sun"
Reply #163 - Mar 6th, 2015 at 11:28pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 6th, 2015 at 9:37pm:
Not sure what you mean by proper conversation.  I give you what I hold true and it may not make sense to you.  I understand.  To be honest I can not for the life of me understand how I can be criticized for believing there is a Creator when many think, as I have stated before, that nothing created life.  That is not logical to me.  It can not be replicated so I can not see how those who want evidence of God have to have greater faith that nothing creates life.  To me, that is the definition of an impossible position of faith.  I have no issues with you Limey and you have been fair in our discussion regarding this topic.


Thanks Seawolf.

I'm not a (spelling challenge....) prosetylising.. Prosytilising... Atheist, not at all.

Whatbothers me in these conversations is the slight tendency to disregard the human ability to reason, without a form of words similar to the ones I posted.

Without that, or a declaration of absolutist Biblical belief, the intellectual position on your side of the (hopefully low, unguarded) fence is very weak.

Anyhow, goodnight.
  

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