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Hillary - this email thing is looking worse and worse
Mar 4th, 2015 at 9:01am
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The computer server that transmitted and received Hillary Rodham Clinton's emails — on a private account she used exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state — traced back to an Internet service registered to her family's home in Chappaqua, New York, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The highly unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official physically running her own email would have given Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, impressive control over limiting access to her message archives. It also would distinguish Clinton's secretive email practices as far more sophisticated than some politicians, including Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, who were caught conducting official business using free email services operated by Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo Inc.

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-ran-own-computer-system-121721814.html

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Wow.  At first I thought she had made the same boneheaded mistake Sarah Palin did and used a public email provider as a back-stop for her official communications.  Which would have made her stupid and careless, especially given that her husband would doubtless have told her not to -- he was famous for never using email.

But now?  This?  Running her own private email server out of her house?  For official government communications?  And using google as a backup email provider, which has been hacked in the past by China????

This is more than stupid.  You can forget about benghazi, fellas, this is the thing that will do her in, unless she does some fancy footwork to walk this all back.

I haven't been here in days, but wanted to post a thread on this, since I didn't see one.  Apologies if this is redundant...
  

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Re: Hillary - this email thing is looking worse and worse
Reply #1 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 10:41am
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Once she's elected President, NOW they can impeach her!

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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 10:42am
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Let's get this out of the way.

Bush made me do it.

  

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Reply #3 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 10:52am
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This wasn't just a mistake or an indiscretion.  She apparently had this system set up on the DAY of her confirmation.  She apparently read the regulations and determined that she was (narrowly) within the law by conducting official business through private email systems.  BUT, to stay within the letter of the law, she had to PRESERVE the archive.  That part of the rules was written to give leeway to people stationed in places where they couldn't get access to their official accounts, or to new employees, etc.  It wasn't intended as a back-door to the HEAD of the state department.

Now, her defense is that they assumed all their correspondence with other government officials would be preserved through THEIR archival policies.  Which is bullshit.  The rules require HER to archive, not for her to rely on other archives.  To say nothing of communications outside the US government.

I was pissed with W when he did it -- he had a whole second email system set up within the white house, and we never did get to those archives.  (Are you IRS-conspiracy guys paying attention?)  And I'm pissed now that Hillary did it, from DAY ONE of her term.

I *really* hope she doesn't get the dem nomination now, because I don't know if I can support this crap.

Excuse my french.
  

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Re: Hillary - this email thing is looking worse and worse
Reply #4 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 11:30am
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forgotten centrist wrote on Mar 4th, 2015 at 9:01am:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The computer server that transmitted and received Hillary Rodham Clinton's emails — on a private account she used exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state — traced back to an Internet service registered to her family's home in Chappaqua, New York, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The highly unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official physically running her own email would have given Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential candidate, impressive control over limiting access to her message archives. It also would distinguish Clinton's secretive email practices as far more sophisticated than some politicians, including Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, who were caught conducting official business using free email services operated by Microsoft Corp. and Yahoo Inc.

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-ran-own-computer-system-121721814.html

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Wow.  At first I thought she had made the same boneheaded mistake Sarah Palin did and used a public email provider as a back-stop for her official communications.  Which would have made her stupid and careless, especially given that her husband would doubtless have told her not to -- he was famous for never using email.

But now?  This?  Running her own private email server out of her house?  For official government communications?  And using google as a backup email provider, which has been hacked in the past by China????

This is more than stupid.  You can forget about benghazi, fellas, this is the thing that will do her in, unless she does some fancy footwork to walk this all back.

I haven't been here in days, but wanted to post a thread on this, since I didn't see one.  Apologies if this is redundant...


She won't get in any major trouble over this if at all. Those emails could say she was selling nuclear
secrets to the Iranians and it wouldn't matter. 
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 1:14pm
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So, Hillary broke the law, and Colin Powell did not?

http://rt.com/usa/237433-powell-clinton-personal-email/

Hillary Clinton wasn’t the only secretary of state to use a personal email address while working at the State Department – Colin Powell also did so while serving under President George W. Bush. But a new report suggests neither may have acted illegally.

According to a report by Politico, an unidentified aide to Powell confirmed that the former secretary of state used a personal email account while working at Foggy Bottom. The aide added that Powell “generally” sent emails to State Department employees by way of their official government accounts, and that “he did not take any hard copies of emails” after he left office in 2005.

“He was not aware of any restrictions nor does he recall being made aware of any over the four years he served at State,” the statement to Politico reads. “He sent emails to his staff generally via their State Department email addresses. These emails should be on the State Department computers. He might have occasionally used personal email addresses, as he did when emailing to family and friends.”
  
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In this case, Hillary did it systematically.  Using a private email host is one thing.  Setting up your own personal private host from your first day on the job is another.  She also went against Obama's explicit guidance -- he had directed that all official govt email be conducted via official accounts.

While what she did might be technically within the law, she has been in clear violation of the spirit of the law.  And yes, I was aware that prior administrations had been doing this secret-email thing, but I had hoped we could move beyond that.  Hillary is a good ten years behind in terms of policy.  And it makes her look like she knew she'd be hiding information, even from government archivists with security clearances, right from day one.

I'm just really disappointed.
  

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So, Hillary broke the law, and Colin Powell did not?

http://rt.com/usa/237433-powell-clinton-personal-email/

Hillary Clinton wasn’t the only secretary of state to use a personal email address while working at the State Department – Colin Powell also did so while serving under President George W. Bush. But a new report suggests neither may have acted illegally.

According to a report by Politico, an unidentified aide to Powell confirmed that the former secretary of state used a personal email account while working at Foggy Bottom. The aide added that Powell “generally” sent emails to State Department employees by way of their official government accounts, and that “he did not take any hard copies of emails” after he left office in 2005.

“He was not aware of any restrictions nor does he recall being made aware of any over the four years he served at State,” the statement to Politico reads. “He sent emails to his staff generally via their State Department email addresses. These emails should be on the State Department computers. He might have occasionally used personal email addresses, as he did when emailing to family and friends.”


So?

Is he running for President?

Bush did it....... cheney.... halliburton..... colin powell.... bush..... cheney.... halliburton......

More of the same, must be okay. Everyone else takes heroine and crack, Dad. Why should't I?

What difference at this point, does it make?
  

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Re: Hillary - this email thing is looking worse and worse
Reply #8 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm
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$20 says in 2016 this will be "Gone with the Wind" with most of the country and she'll be on the ballot.
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Re: Hillary - this email thing is looking worse and worse
Reply #9 - Mar 4th, 2015 at 2:02pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Mar 4th, 2015 at 1:49pm:
$20 says in 2016 this will be "Gone with the Wind" with most of the country and she'll be on the ballet.


True dat.

She is amazing at getting away with stuff that others, like Martha Stewart, as one example, went to prison for.

Good example of the fact, that just because other criminals get away with crimes, does not mean you do not get convicted of crime, if you get caught in criminal activity.

Other guys are doing it too, is not a defense.

But, no way in hell would I take that bet, unless you are offering some really long odds on that $Twenty.  Wink
  

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