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Reply #20 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:54pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
Actually more people have benefited. Your emotions do not translate to fact.


If that is true, why, in every poll, do more people vote against the law than for it?

You don't get to choose whether someone benefits.  They do.
  
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Re: Good News for Obamacare
Reply #21 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:18am
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wyattstorch2004 wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:54pm:
If that is true, why, in every poll, do more people vote against the law than for it?

You don't get to choose whether someone benefits. They do.



There Lies The Truth.

Am I pay more for b o care? YES

Do I have the same doctors? NO

Am I pay more for Rx's? YES

Can I get the same Rx's as before? No

Can I have the same insurance co?    No

Is the new insurance as good as the last one.   NO
  

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Reply #22 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:16am
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petep wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 9:28am:
this post represents a classic leftist move....

millions lost their docs/coverage on care they chose as a result of this law...and they were lied to in advance about it...there is no debate on that...

our company and thousands of others will be forced to drop great care they are providing in favor of less coverage as a result of the Cadillac tax, meant to punish good employers and employees of these companies

we have seen the deductibles rise ten fold on average as a result of obamacare....

we have seen thousands of docs and hospitals who will not take the obamacare insurance....

and the left will look you square in the eye and claim its a success....

it's one lie after another...

it's really no different than when kim jong or castro hold elections and point to 100% voting for them as evidence that they are well liked...


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You are absolutely correct, and here's something more that addresses the similarities with Castro and this current regime in America:

Ted Cruz's father knows a lot about the island paradise called, 'Cuba' .. and the same way so many stupid people believed Castro.

See below:

Pay close attention at about the 6 minute 30 second time frame into the video, but, it's all worth watching.  Wink


  
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Reply #23 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 11:27am
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Good news!

Insurance companies have TONS of new customers forced by law to be their customers!

It's a victory!

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Re: Good News for Obamacare
Reply #24 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:06pm
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Good news!

Insurance companies have TONS of new customers forced by law to be their customers!

It's a victory!

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Yes and Insurance Companies get to pick and choose where they sell there insurance within a state.  In my area of Washington state, you can not get an insurance companies to sell PPO insurance to you. 

If you like your insurance you can keep it.    

If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

If you doctor give you a Rx, your insurance companies will tell you if you can have it or not.  I get better insurance from my cars and house then I do for b o care.   Sad
  

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Reply #25 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:34pm
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notime wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:48am:
Yet it has been for many years and no doubt you have benefited from that. I'm willing to bet you don't actually think that government has no business getting involved in health care.


Obamacare is illegal. I dont expect you to know why.
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Reply #26 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:45pm
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notime wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 8:08am:
Let me know if you don't want government scrutiny of medicines or when you reject Medicare benefits or if you think hospitals ought to be allowed to turn away dying patients they could fix with intervention. Let me know if you don't want the medical facilities you use to meet minimum standards or medical research for cancer and Alzheimers.


What you mention, about the quality of medicines, and a person not being turned away in an emergency is all to protect us. Most medical research is done by private corporations that pay for it and hope to come up with something they can sell and make their money back with a profit. No one is forcing you to have Medicare, Medicaid or anything else if you dont need or want it. The government has no right to force you to buy government healthcare. The government has no right to fine you if you tell Obama to shove it. Your right is to pick and pay for the insurance company of your choice. For the people that cannot afford it, we have Medicaid and other programs that we already pay for, and it is not forced on anyone. It is gladly accepted. 

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Re: Good News for Obamacare
Reply #27 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:48pm
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Archie wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:45pm:
What you mention, about the quality of medicines, and a person not being turned away in an emergency is all to protect us. Most medical research is done by private corporations that pay for it and hope to come up with something they can sell and make their money back with a profit. No one is forcing you to have Medicare, Medicaid or anything else if you dont need or want it. The government has no right to force you to buy government healthcare. The government has no right to fine you if you tell Obama to shove it. Your right is to pick and pay for the insurance company of your choice. For the people that cannot afford it, we have Medicaid and other programs that we already pay for, and it is not forced on anyone. It is gladly accepted.

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The only "government healthcare" I am aware of is the VA, Medicare, Medicaid and Tricare.

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Reply #28 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:50pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 4:07pm:
Is it your position that all people getting subsidies to pay for health care coverage are "leeches"?

Just askin'...

Greg


They get a subsidy because they cannot afford Obamacare. There are other state and government health care programs that will cost them nothing. Why not use what we have already?
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Reply #29 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:51pm
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Archie wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:50pm:
They get a subsidy because they cannot afford Obamacare. There are other state and government health care programs that will cost them nothing. Why not use what we have already?
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Single parents under 40 with kids tend not to qualify for Medicaid or Medicare.

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