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Are we crazy?
Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:31pm
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We have a law that must be changed. The law says that if you are born here, you are an American citizen. It should be that you have two legal American parents. Or at least one legal American parent.

And did you hear this one?

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists - NBC News ...Mar 3, 2015 ... ... hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided
early Tues... ... in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new
moms who ... pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese
... to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, ...http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels-birth-...


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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:32pm
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It seems you want to modify the Constitution.

Yes?

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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:32pm:
It seems you want to modify the Constitution.

Yes?

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You say that as though modifying the Constitution were inherently negative.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:09pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:32pm:
It seems you want to modify the Constitution.

Yes?

Greg


In this case yes, legally. The way it is supposed to be done, not with the stroke of a pen. And I have to believe that even you can see that there is a flaw in that being born here makes you an American. It is a flaw that many people from other countries are taking advantage of. And when they do, they are taking advantage of you and me. We have laws, if people came here legally, become citizens, yes then there children are automatically citizens when born here. Sneaking over the border, skirting around our laws, no their children should not automatically be a citizen when born here. If you do not agree, why?
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Reply #4 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:08pm
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Archie wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
In this case yes, legally. The way it is supposed to be done, not with the stroke of a pen. And I have to believe that even you can see that there is a flaw in that being born here makes you an American. It is a flaw that many people from other countries are taking advantage of. And when they do, they are taking advantage of you and me. We have laws, if people came here legally, become citizens, yes then there children are automatically citizens when born here. Sneaking over the border, skirting around our laws, no their children should not automatically be a citizen when born here. If you do not agree, why?
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Lots of countries have the same ruLe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
France used to insist on military service for those born there even if to foreign parents, and who left in childhood.
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 12:46am
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Limey. wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:08pm:
Lots of countries have the same ruLe.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
France used to insist on military service for those born there even if to foreign parents, and who left in childhood.


Was just about to say this is not uniquely American, though clearly our prosperity attracts pregnant hookers from all over the world.

Importing hookers has never been a hot button issue for me.  Fast women are good women.
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 12:52am
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Couldn't hurt.
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 7:10am
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Archie wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:31pm:
We have a law that must be changed. The law says that if you are born here, you are an American citizen. It should be that you have two legal American parents. Or at least one legal American parent.

And did you hear this one?

Feds Raid California 'Maternity Hotels' for Birth Tourists - NBC News ...Mar 3, 2015 ... ... hotels" for Chinese women who want made-in-America babies were raided
early Tues... ... in Irvine, California, which housed pregnant women and new
moms who ... pocketed hundreds of thousands of dollars tax-free to help Chinese
... to have the baby, but if you lie about your reasons for coming here, ...http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/feds-raid-california-maternity-hotels-birth-...


Afraid of Brown People again?

You could always invade Mexico.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:15pm
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Afraid of Brown People again?

You could always invade Mexico.


No, I am not afraid of any people because of their race what I have described is destroying my country financially, and with more crime than ever.
What I donít like is a dumb ass ni)er like you sticking your prejudiced race card in at every turn because that is all you know. Your kind, the kind my black friends call a ni(*er is an insult to the black race. Most are smarter than you are, and it shows. Get lost Thor, you are a waste of time.
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Reply #9 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 1:20pm
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Archie wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 5:09pm:
In this case yes, legally. The way it is supposed to be done, not with the stroke of a pen. And I have to believe that even you can see that there is a flaw in that being born here makes you an American. It is a flaw that many people from other countries are taking advantage of. And when they do, they are taking advantage of you and me. We have laws, if people came here legally, become citizens, yes then there children are automatically citizens when born here. Sneaking over the border, skirting around our laws, no their children should not automatically be a citizen when born here. If you do not agree, why?
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I  have to agree with Archie on this one.  Seems to me merely being born here ought not make one a citizen.  The devil is always in the details, but this one bears looking at.

At the same time, I would opine that merely being a "natural born citizen" (whatever the heck that is) ought not make one any more eligible to  hold any elective office, including that of president, than being a naturalized citizen.  I know of plenty naturalized citizens MUCH more able to cast an intelligent vote and who love this country MUCH more than plenty of "natural born citizens."  So while we're screwing around with citizenship criteria, let's at least look at that, too.
  

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