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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #50 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:21am
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Wadsworth wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:09am:
Well we can go back to the swiftboating of John Kerry, the Florida cheating of Al Gore. The WMDs ofGWB, the  Iran contra of Reagan and of course Watergate.  You tell me

And yet Republicans have continued to win elections.

So what is your argument again?

Perhaps the Democrats are also corrupt and flawed?
  

Wadsworth wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
We are talking about this government, aren't we?  If we were any other kind of government like China or NK, we would not even be having this discussion because you would not even be allowed to own a gun. 


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By all accounts Syria was somewhat calm.
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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #51 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:49am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:21am:
And yet Republicans have continued to win elections.

So what is your argument again?

Perhaps the Democrats are also corrupt and flawed?

Well, you did ask have they always been so awful. Just pointing out that they have.  Now why you and your crew continue to vote for such awful people is a question that I have no answer
  

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This is why people need to turn against the gov in general.  Only going to get worse.
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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #52 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:07am
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Wadsworth wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:49am:
Well, you did ask have they always been so awful. Just pointing out that they have.  Now why you and your crew continue to vote for such awful people is a question that I have no answer

But your original premise is that they won’t win elections because of these characteristics.

And then you say they’ve always been this way.

And you agree they’ve won elections in the past.

So you see where I might be concerned about your ability to formulate a coherent argument about things?
  

Wadsworth wrote on Sep 19th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
We are talking about this government, aren't we?  If we were any other kind of government like China or NK, we would not even be having this discussion because you would not even be allowed to own a gun. 


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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #53 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:10am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:07am:
But your original premise is that they won’t win elections because of these characteristics.

And then you say they’ve always been this way.

And you agree they’ve won elections in the past.

So you see where I might be concerned about your ability to formulate a coherent argument about things?

Stop twisting my words around.  A statement I made 4 years ago has nothing to do with the question you asked in which I answered.  If you cannot dispute my answer to your question, then let it go.
  

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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #54 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:26am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 8:04am:
Is this a new development,


Relatively ..

In brief.

Republicans were comparatively a progressive party. Democrats were deeply conservative.  In the late 19th century Republicans expanded federal power, promoted the state university system, aggressively funded infrastructure programs..  Republicans supported laws that offered security for Blacks after the Civil War.   Southern Democrats being Conservative opposed these actions.

Shifts in party platforms between the 1930s and 1950s effectively saw the parties switch ideologies (easily verified Here and Here)  culminating with the Republican's "Southern Strategy" of the 60s where Republicans played upon the fears of Southerns, who were appalled by the Democrat's embrace of Voting Rights and Civil Rights, to convert Southern Democrats to Republicans..


More and a Lot More
  

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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #55 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:31am
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notime wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 11:21am:
What have they done since 1920?


The biggee thing that happened was that they term limited the Presidency to two terms instead of continuing with the unending terms, like FDR.  He was in his 4th term when he died.  Dang, that's a long time.
  
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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #56 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:02am
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 15th, 2015 at 9:45am:
They're anti-science, against women's and minority rights, and generally wish to restrict access to the ballot box because they can't win elections on policy or ideas.


Wads, please don't confuse Trump supporters with Republicans. Those are two completely different groups of people.

Trump is a salesman, and he sold the idea that there is a group in this country that is being ignored and victimized. It's a lie, but they ate it up and voted for him. Many of those people would call themselves Republicans, and Trump, knowing this, hijacked the Republican party. But while many of those people did vote for Trump (obviously), many others, like myself, simply left the party.
  
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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #57 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:06am
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Freon_Bale wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Wads, please don't confuse Trump supporters with Republicans. Those are two completely different groups of people.

Trump is a salesman, and he sold the idea that there is a group in this country that is being ignored and victimized. It's a lie, but they ate it up and voted for him. Many of those people would call themselves Republicans, and Trump, knowing this, hijacked the Republican party. But while many of those people did vote for Trump (obviously), many others, like myself, simply left the party.

My original statement was directed to republicans in general.  Now Trump is a different story but that statement was about republicans', not trump.  And it still holds true..Look at them, what happened to repeal and replace.  Why are they so against climate change and why are so few women republicans in the senate and congress.  What about restricting women's right to choose.  Why are they only concerned about the deficit when they are not in office.  What about their efforts to restrict voting rights.  This is about republicans, not trump.
  

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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
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Wadsworth wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:06am:
My original statement was directed to republicans in general.  Now Trump is a different story but that statement was about republicans', not trump.  And it still holds true..Look at them, what happened to repeal and replace.  Why are they so against climate change and why are so few women republicans in the senate and congress.  What about restricting women's right to choose.  Why are they only concerned about the deficit when they are not in office.  What about their efforts to restrict voting rights.  This is about republicans, not trump.


And I am countering your argument by saying that those 'republicans' in office are not republicans. They're Trump yes-men.

A real Republican, one the Trump supporters would call a RINO, might have a chance at winning. I would vote for a Republican that was fiscally conservative, but socially liberal, whose platform was to try and create compromise with the Dems.

The biggest lie that Trump supporters have bought into is that it is possible to achieve all their goals with no compromise or negotiation with the Dems. That's just not reality.
  
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Re: Why a republican will not be our next president
Reply #59 - Nov 8th, 2019 at 10:24am
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Nov 8th, 2019 at 9:07am:
But your original premise is that they won’t win elections because of these characteristics.

And then you say they’ve always been this way.

And you agree they’ve won elections in the past.

So you see where I might be concerned about your ability to formulate a coherent argument about things?


game, set, match....

this is like watching usain bolt against oprah in a 100 yard dash...and he is still trying to engage in the discussion...no self awareness.
  
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