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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #20 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:28pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 9:18pm:
By the President of the United States of America

A PROCLAMATION

AS the safety and prosperity of nations ultimately and essentially depend on the protection and blessing of Almighty God; and the national acknowledgment of this truth is not only an indispensable duty which the people owe to Him, but a duty whose natural influence is favorable to the promotion of that morality and piety, without which social happiness cannot exist, nor the blessings of a free government be enjoyed; and as this duty, at all times incumbent, is so especially in seasons of difficulty and of danger, when existing or threatening calamities, the just judgments of God against prevalent iniquity are a loud call to repentance and reformation; and as the United States of America are at present placed in a hazardous and afflictive situation, by the unfriendly disposition, conduct and demands of a foreign power, evinced by repeated refusals to receive our messengers of reconciliation and peace, by depredations on our commerce, and the infliction of injuries on very many of our fellow citizens, while engaged in their lawful business on the seas: —Under these considerations it has appeared to me that the duty of imploring the mercy and benediction of Heaven on our country, demands at this time a special attention from its inhabitants.

I HAVE therefore thought it fit to recommend, that Wednesday, the 9th day of May next be observed throughout the United States, as a day of Solemn Humiliation, Fasting and Prayer; That the citizens of these states, abstaining on that day from their customary worldly occupations, offer their devout addresses to the Father of Mercies, agreeably to those forms or methods which they have severally adopted as the most suitable and becoming: That all religious congregations do, with the deepest humility, acknowledge before GOD the manifold sins and transgressions with which we are justly chargeable as individuals and as a nation; beseeching him, at the same time, of his infinite Grace, through the Redeemer of the world, freely to remit all our offences, and to incline us, by his holy spirit, to that sincere repentance and reformation which may afford us reason to hope for his inestimable favor and heavenly benediction; That it be made the subject of particular and earnest supplication, that our country may be protected from all the dangers which threaten it; that our civil and religious privileges may be preserved inviolate, and perpetuated to the latest generations; that our public councils and magistrates may be especially enlightened and directed at this critical period; that the American people may be united in those bonds of amity and mutual confidence, and inspired with that vigor and fortitude by which they have in times past been so highly distinguished, and by which they have obtained such invaluable advantages: That the health of the inhabitants of our land may be preserved, and their agriculture, commerce, fisheries, arts and manufactures be blessed and prospered: That the principles of genuine piety and sound morality may influence the minds and govern the lives of every description of our citizens; and that the blessings of peace, freedom, and pure religion, may be speedily extended to all the nations of the earth.

And finally I recommend, that on the said day; the duties of humiliation and prayer be accompanied by fervent Thanksgiving to the bestower of every good gift, not only for having hitherto protected and preserved the people of these United States in the independent enjoyment of their religious and civil freedom, but also for having prospered them in a wonderful progress of population, and for conferring on them many and great favours conducive to the happiness and prosperity of a nation.

Given under my hand and seal of the United States of America, at Philadelphia, this twenty-third day of March, in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety-eight, and of the Independence of the said States the twenty-second.

JOHN ADAMS

Anybody can proclaim whatever the hell they want, but in the U.S we have freedom of religion.  Which means we can worship whatever we want or choose to not worship at all.
  

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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #21 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:30pm
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Redbeard wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:04pm:
You forgetting the national prayer breakfast insults? That was just last week!! Huh Huh

The president can have a prayer breakfast, but he can't force us to pray.
  

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Reply #22 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:06am
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 11:28pm:
Anybody can proclaim whatever the hell they want, but in the U.S we have freedom of religion.  Which means we can worship whatever we want or choose to not worship at all.

That is not what this is about Wad, you are pivoting.  I do want to thank you for yoru change of heart though.  You are right about freedom of religion AND our right to FREELLY EXPRESS IT as per the First Amendment.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #23 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:06am
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Cameron hit the nail on the head for both the UK and the US when he said,

[quote][/“And it’s for all these reasons that we should feel proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that embraces, welcomes and accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a Christian country.” quote]

I can't see Obama making a positive statement about the U.S. in any manner.  He began his Presidency with his world tour in which he apologized for the nasty things he thought we had done while ignoring the positive accomplishments. 

For those who believe that we aren't a Christian nation founded on Christian beliefs, don't be so proud of that belief.  It's foolish.
  
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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #24 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:08am
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:06am:
Cameron hit the nail on the head for both the UK and the US when he said,

[quote][/“And it’s for all these reasons that we should feel proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that embraces, welcomes and accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a Christian country.” quote]

I can't see Obama making a positive statement about the U.S. in any manner.  He began his Presidency with his world tour in which he apologized for the nasty things he thought we had done while ignoring the positive accomplishments. 

For those who believe that we aren't a Christian nation founded on Christian beliefs, don't be so proud of that belief.  It's foolish.

It's also a foolish narrative I just proved wrong.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #25 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 8:35am
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:06am:
That is not what this is about Wad, you are pivoting.  I do want to thank you for yoru change of heart though.  You are right about freedom of religion AND our right to FREELLY EXPRESS IT as per the First Amendment.

No one ever said you did not have the right to pray.  See that is the problem with people like you.  You really don't understand freedom of religion.  You listen to the extreme right wing talking heads telling you lies that you then believe to be true because you can't think for yourself.  Freedom of religion was taught in school.  It means that you have a right to worship as you choose and do not have the right to force people to worship as you do.  I think the later of that sentence is what you have a problem with.
  

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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #26 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 8:37am
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:06am:
Cameron hit the nail on the head for both the UK and the US when he said,

[quote][/“And it’s for all these reasons that we should feel proud to say, ‘This is a Christian country.’ Yes, we’re a nation that embraces, welcomes and accepts all faiths and none, but we are still a Christian country.” quote]

I can't see Obama making a positive statement about the U.S. in any manner.  He began his Presidency with his world tour in which he apologized for the nasty things he thought we had done while ignoring the positive accomplishments. 

For those who believe that we aren't a Christian nation founded on Christian beliefs, don't be so proud of that belief.  It's foolish.

If you are a Christian, then you should believe that we are supposed to acknowledge our sins.  But you ,like lots of people here are probably a pretend Christian.
  

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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #27 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 10:08am
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:08am:
It's also a foolish narrative I just proved wrong.


Bullshit.. 100% pseudo-Christian Bullshit... The Adams 'proclamation' you're spinning does not have the force of law..

THIS does.

“The government of the United States is not,in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”


1797 Treaty with Tripoli signed by President Adams


  
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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #28 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 10:10am
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:59pm:
We're made up of a vast amount of religions..


ALL religions are "made up".

  
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Re: Can you picture Hussein ever making a statement like this ?
Reply #29 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 10:58am
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Fiddler wrote on Apr 9th, 2015 at 10:08am:
Bullshit.. 100% pseudo-Christian Bullshit... The Adams 'proclamation' you're spinning does not have the force of law..

THIS does.

“The government of the United States is not,in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”


1797 Treaty with Tripoli signed by President Adams






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