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A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Apr 23rd, 2015 at 9:20pm
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A little metaphysics.

Women represent the Infinite side of the Divine nature, thus there is always something undefined about femininity in comparison to masculinity, as Infinite means 'Having no boundaries or limits; impossible to measure or calculate' This obscure element in femininity than makes it more 'flexible' than masculinity.*

Thus, even before the modern era, throughout history, there were always times when some outstanding woman would assume a masculine role and be accepted in it by both men and women; women who led their people in war, or became great queens or empresses.

By contrast, what do we think of a man who wants to take on feminine roles, and in a feminine way?  He generally gets respect from no one, male or female.

A woman puts on a pant suit to run for President.  What if a man put on a skirt and high heels and ran for President?

There is a reason men are not granted the same leeway as women.  The masculine pole is the Absolute pole of the Divine Nature.

The Absolute "is what it is" it is unmixed, pure, well-defined.  Thus not only is masculinity well-defined universally as the role of provider, creator, ruler, warrior, and priest/'wise man' but each individual man has a defined role in his life each individual man has a set of skills he is gifted and which he can either use in their right manner or which he can not use, or use in a wrong manner, leading to chaos in his life and the lives of those around him.

But anyways, because of this more definite character of masculinity, males appear ridiculous when they step out of their role to assume traditionally feminine roles. 

Of course, not all women by any means are suited for truly masculine roles, and in a way it "stretches" a female when they assume masculine roles.  The Infinite tendency is an inward tendency.  It is the tendency of things "in potential" but not yet realized actively.  It is the mother, bearing inside her a child, than keeping it close in its young years. 

The Absolute is an outward tendency, the "potential" becomes active in the absolute or masculine. 



*This obscure element in femininity is behind a lot of 'folksy' stereotypes about women, which of course contain a lot of truth; things of course that nowadays certain people would shudder in horror and say "sexism" on hearing, but which nevertheless people always say, like: women are hard to please because even they often do not know what they want, or whereas sexual attraction for men is very straightforward, for women it is highly varied from woman to woman, and probably in time and place as well.

**Of course, as always "exceptions prove the rule."
  


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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #1 - Apr 23rd, 2015 at 9:39pm
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Frank1 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2015 at 9:20pm:
A little metaphysics.

Women represent the Infinite side of the Divine nature, thus there is always something undefined about femininity in comparison to masculinity, as Infinite means 'Having no boundaries or limits; impossible to measure or calculate' This obscure element in femininity than makes it more 'flexible' than masculinity.*

Thus, even before the modern era, throughout history, there were always times when some outstanding woman would assume a masculine role and be accepted in it by both men and women; women who led their people in war, or became great queens or empresses.

By contrast, what do we think of a man who wants to take on feminine roles, and in a feminine way? He generally gets respect from no one, male or female.

A woman puts on a pant suit to run for President. What if a man put on a skirt and high heels and ran for President?

There is a reason men are not granted the same leeway as women. The masculine pole is the Absolute pole of the Divine Nature.

The Absolute "is what it is" it is unmixed, pure, well-defined. Thus not only is masculinity well-defined universally as the role of provider, creator, ruler, warrior, and priest/'wise man' but each individual man has a defined role in his life each individual man has a set of skills he is gifted and which he can either use in their right manner or which he can not use, or use in a wrong manner, leading to chaos in his life and the lives of those around him.

But anyways, because of this more definite character of masculinity, males appear ridiculous when they step out of their role to assume traditionally feminine roles.

Of course, not all women by any means are suited for truly masculine roles, and in a way it "stretches" a female when they assume masculine roles. The Infinite tendency is an inward tendency. It is the tendency of things "in potential" but not yet realized actively. It is the mother, bearing inside her a child, than keeping it close in its young years.

The Absolute is an outward tendency, the "potential" becomes active in the absolute or masculine.



*This obscure element in femininity is behind a lot of 'folksy' stereotypes about women, which of course contain a lot of truth; things of course that nowadays certain people would shudder in horror and say "sexism" on hearing, but which nevertheless people always say, like: women are hard to please because even they often do not know what they want, or whereas sexual attraction for men is very straightforward, for women it is highly varied from woman to woman, and probably in time and place as well.

**Of course, as always "exceptions prove the rule."

Come on...............You dont think Bill or Obama havent frolicked through the white house in drag??
  
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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #2 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:28am
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Frank1 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2015 at 9:20pm:
A little metaphysics.

Women represent the Infinite side of the Divine nature, thus there is always something undefined about femininity in comparison to masculinity, as Infinite means 'Having no boundaries or limits; impossible to measure or calculate' This obscure element in femininity than makes it more 'flexible' than masculinity.*

Thus, even before the modern era, throughout history, there were always times when some outstanding woman would assume a masculine role and be accepted in it by both men and women; women who led their people in war, or became great queens or empresses.

By contrast, what do we think of a man who wants to take on feminine roles, and in a feminine way? He generally gets respect from no one, male or female.

A woman puts on a pant suit to run for President. What if a man put on a skirt and high heels and ran for President?

There is a reason men are not granted the same leeway as women. The masculine pole is the Absolute pole of the Divine Nature.

The Absolute "is what it is" it is unmixed, pure, well-defined. Thus not only is masculinity well-defined universally as the role of provider, creator, ruler, warrior, and priest/'wise man' but each individual man has a defined role in his life each individual man has a set of skills he is gifted and which he can either use in their right manner or which he can not use, or use in a wrong manner, leading to chaos in his life and the lives of those around him.

But anyways, because of this more definite character of masculinity, males appear ridiculous when they step out of their role to assume traditionally feminine roles.

Of course, not all women by any means are suited for truly masculine roles, and in a way it "stretches" a female when they assume masculine roles. The Infinite tendency is an inward tendency. It is the tendency of things "in potential" but not yet realized actively. It is the mother, bearing inside her a child, than keeping it close in its young years.

The Absolute is an outward tendency, the "potential" becomes active in the absolute or masculine.



*This obscure element in femininity is behind a lot of 'folksy' stereotypes about women, which of course contain a lot of truth; things of course that nowadays certain people would shudder in horror and say "sexism" on hearing, but which nevertheless people always say, like: women are hard to please because even they often do not know what they want, or whereas sexual attraction for men is very straightforward, for women it is highly varied from woman to woman, and probably in time and place as well.

**Of course, as always "exceptions prove the rule."


This is mostly bs.  Women can get away with wearing pants because they had the guts to step out of their box and just wear pants.  Men have not done that, but they could if they wanted to.  Of course they will suffer the same as did women when they stepped out.  If men wanted to they could all be wearing skirts and makeup.  I don't know why they don't.  C'mon men....grow a spine and wear WTF you want to wear. 
  
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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #3 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 3:00am
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wildhorses wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:28am:
This is mostly bs. Women can get away with wearing pants because they had the guts to step out of their box and just wear pants. Men have not done that, but they could if they wanted to. Of course they will suffer the same as did women when they stepped out. If men wanted to they could all be wearing skirts and makeup. I don't know why they don't. C'mon men....grow a spine and wear WTF you want to wear.

I completely disagree.

Men, don't be fags.
  


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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #4 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 4:23am
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Jasmine wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 3:00am:
I completely disagree.

Men, don't be fags.


A man who wears a skirt is a f*g?  Ever heard of a kilt?  And, btw, JESUS wore a dress...lol.  Was Jesus a f*g?  In fact if you go back far enough...all men wore dresses.  Only in modern times have men worn pants. 
  
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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #5 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:45am
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wildhorses wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:28am:
Women can get away with wearing pants because they had the guts to step out of their box and just wear pants. Men have not done that, but they could if they wanted to.

The (quite sexist) implication being that men do not have "the guts" as women do.

Not that I'm offended or anything.

But if I said "men do X, because they have guts. Women don't do X, but they could."

I would be accused of sexism, and isn't it fair to mention it when the opposite occurs?
  

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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #6 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 7:17am
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Oh Frank, Frank....


What a load of tosh.
  

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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #7 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 1:36pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 6:45am:
The (quite sexist) implication being that men do not have "the guts" as women do.

Not that I'm offended or anything.

But if I said "men do X, because they have guts. Women don't do X, but they could."

I would be accused of sexism, and isn't it fair to mention it when the opposite occurs?


The post was not at all sexist...just the truth.  Men ....if they wanted could wear dresses...if they had the guts to just start doing it so it would become socially acceptable.  They have not..but women have. 
  
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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
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wildhorses wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 1:36pm:
The post was not at all sexist...just the truth. Men ....if they wanted could wear dresses...if they had the guts to just start doing it so it would become socially acceptable. They have not..but women have.

Lulz.

Women don't have the guts to ask for more money.

That's why there is a wage gap.

Men have the guts. Women don't. So they won't make as much money as men. If only women had more guts. Like men do.

#notsexist
#becausewildhorsessaidso
#funwithgeneralizations
  

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Re: A thought on the metaphysics of sexuality.
Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 2:09pm
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Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 1:42pm:
Lulz.

Women don't have the guts to ask for more money.

That's why there is a wage gap.

Men have the guts. Women don't. So they won't make as much money as men. If only women had more guts. Like men do.

#notsexist
#becausewildhorsessaidso
#funwithgeneralizations


Nope.  Not playing that.  It is not true that women don't have the guts to ask for more money.  That is why the statement is sexist...because it is not true.  It is a diversion from the real problems affecting women's wages.

It is true that men could wear dresses if they would just start doing so.  I don't know why they would want to because I think dresses are a PIA...but anyway...they could if they wanted.  But some men would have to start doing so to make it socially acceptable and, at least initially, they would come under attack...which is stupid...but they would.  But the fact remains, they could if they wanted to. 
  
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