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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #20 - Apr 24th, 2015 at 9:30pm
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Possibly Logical wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 12:36pm:
Do you actually look at America and say "blacks have it easy"?


This took place in England, not America.

....and Patrick is right, these people are not interested in bringing people together, obviously, you cannot ignore the native majority population and than say you are interested in equality and bringing people together.

Considering the growing sentiment against foreigners throughout all of Europe, they are ultimately undermining their own position, and also the position of migrants leaving war torn areas in Africa and the Middle East who are trying to get to Europe for safety.
  


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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #21 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:43am
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Possibly Logical wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 8:59am:
I think a movie that portrayed the opposite view, that American soldiers are bloodthirsty murders, would also face scrutiny.


Why do you say that?  I haven't read anything about that happening, and you haven't given an example.
  
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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #22 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:49am
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Limey. wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:15am:
I think that a university should be a place that is vehemently honest, a place where ideas - however unpalatable - can be explored (including demolishing stupid ones) and a place where your presence is based upon your ability, and not any other factor (except refraining from burning the place down or killing people etc.)

I also think that, as our intellect is the thing that defines us, it would be and is a stupid thing to keep the doors ajar rather than wide open - as a group, humans would likely do better if we managed to set the best able people to the most challenging tasks, and therefore, certainly, I agree with measures to ensure that can happen. THis includes helping poorer people, and those who are from groups usually discriminated against, to gain access. Not at the expense of anyone else. Just to see the right people at the right position on the admissions heirarchy.

Grudgingly, and hedged about with conditions, I can see that it is possible to justify, sometimes, exclusivity in gatherings to discuss certain topics. Possibly. Maybe. Rarely. Can't think of any.


I basically agree with what you say, except (you knew that was coming, didn't you?) for the following sentence.  Quote:
Just to see the right people at the right position on the admissions heirarchy.


What do you mean by the "right people" and the "right positions"?  Who decides what/who is "right"?  I'm sure the people who do the hiring at the various institutions believe that they have hired the "right" people, even when they're all leftists.
  
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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #23 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:51am
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Limey. wrote on Apr 24th, 2015 at 11:31am:
by the way, when you are old enough for university, what will you study?


Ha, ha.  Dang, I didn't know you had a sense of humor.
  
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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #24 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 11:47pm
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:51am:
Ha, ha.  Dang, I didn't know you had a sense of humor.


I don't.

I have a sense of humour.
  

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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #25 - Apr 25th, 2015 at 11:48pm
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 6:49am:
I basically agree with what you say, except (you knew that was coming, didn't you?) for the following sentence. 

What do you mean by the "right people" and the "right positions"?  Who decides what/who is "right"?  I'm sure the people who do the hiring at the various institutions believe that they have hired the "right" people, even when they're all leftists.


Intellectual ability and aptitude for the study-the right people.
  

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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #26 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 5:48am
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Limey. wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 11:47pm:
I don't.

I have a sense of humour.


Just a  Smiley  not a  Grin
  
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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #27 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 5:49am
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Limey. wrote on Apr 25th, 2015 at 11:48pm:
Intellectual ability and aptitude for the study-the right people.


Would a right wing person have those attributes, in your opinion?
  
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Re: More suppression of ideas in the university
Reply #28 - Apr 26th, 2015 at 5:56pm
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 26th, 2015 at 5:49am:
Would a right wing person have those attributes, in your opinion?



Whyever not?
  

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