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Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Dec 11th, 2015 at 3:57am
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Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President.

March 02, 2015

Thanks to Matthew Ung, we need to remind ourselves how desperately the Republican establishment wanted Ronald Reagan to just go away in the 1970s.  keep this in mind as the Republican establishment works to marginalize the Tea party and conservatives like Ted Cruz today.

Former Republican Senator Chuck Percy of Illinois in 1975 to the New York Times: “A Reagan nomination and the crushing defeat likely to follow could signal the beginning of the end of our party as an effective force in American life.”

Representative John Rhodes, Republican of Arizona, who became leader of the Republicans in the House, in 1975 said, “As soon as Reagan gets away from his clichés and his campaign slogans, he’s in trouble.”

Republican Vice President Nelson Rockefeller warned Republicans governors in 1975: “No major American party can long endure by directing its appeal to a narrow minority. It will not serve the nation to have our major parties polarized at ideological extremes.”

Republican Representative Pete McCloskey of California in 1976: “A Reagan win would be a disaster for the GOP.”

In 1976, Reagan was publicly told by two Republican governors to get out of the race against Ford.


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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #1 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 5:44am
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I remember.  However, I relate this to the way that Trump is being treated by the Reps, not Cruz.  Could the establishment possibly be in trouble with the people?  Are they angry that we're thinking for ourselves?
  
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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #2 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 8:24am
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crepe05 wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 5:44am:
I remember.  However, I relate this to the way that Trump is being treated by the Reps, not Cruz.  Could the establishment possibly be in trouble with the people?  Are they angry that we're thinking for ourselves?


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The establishment rePUBICans want Jeb Bush, but, they will settle for Rubio.

They absolutely do not want Trump or Cruz, but, .. a lot of the GOP voters do. 
  

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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #3 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:03pm
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crepe05 wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 5:44am:
Are they angry that we're thinking for ourselves?


Nope, no one is angry that you all are "thinking" for yourselves.
We are disgusted that you all are forcing us to lose a perfectly winnable election. The Democrats are running their weakest candidate ever and instead of nominating someone that can win a general election, people like yourself have selected a Liberal NY Celebrity with the highest negatives of all of the candidates in both parties.
Trump has the self control and personality of a 4th grader.
Reagan would have never insulted a POW, Reagan would have never insulted womens looks, Reagan wouldn't have mocked a handicapped person and lied about it, Reagan wouldn't have refused to call Jerusalem the capital of Israel, Reagan wouldn't have suggested blocking American Muslims re-entry into the country, Reagan wouldn't have suggested Russia who invaded Ukraine and downed a passenger plane take over in the Syria to help Assad kill rebels armed by the U.S. etc, etc... 
Trump has horrible judgment as do his supporters.

The Republican Party will NOT allow Donald Trump to be the face of the party as it would be party suicide.
Best case scenario at this point would be for Trump to run 3rd party even if it means we get Hillary for 4 years (it would happen anyway as he won't beat her in a general). I agree with S.E Cupp on this.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-republican...
  
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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #4 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:05pm
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stu_gatze wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 3:57am:
Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President.

March 02, 2015

Thanks to Matthew Ung, we need to remind ourselves how desperately the Republican establishment wanted Ronald Reagan to just go away in the 1970s.  keep this in mind as the Republican establishment works to marginalize the Tea party and conservatives like Ted Cruz today.

Former Republican Senator Chuck Percy of Illinois in 1975 to the New York Times: “A Reagan nomination and the crushing defeat likely to follow could signal the beginning of the end of our party as an effective force in American life.”

Representative John Rhodes, Republican of Arizona, who became leader of the Republicans in the House, in 1975 said, “As soon as Reagan gets away from his clichés and his campaign slogans, he’s in trouble.”

Republican Vice President Nelson Rockefeller warned Republicans governors in 1975: “No major American party can long endure by directing its appeal to a narrow minority. It will not serve the nation to have our major parties polarized at ideological extremes.”

Republican Representative Pete McCloskey of California in 1976: “A Reagan win would be a disaster for the GOP.”

In 1976, Reagan was publicly told by two Republican governors to get out of the race against Ford.


MORE>http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2015/03/remember-this-republican-establishment.h...


I'll just leave this here.

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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #5 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:11pm
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Josie wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:05pm:

You can leave it where ever you want but let me remind you that the GOP will lose if Jeb or any other RINO is elected.  The GOP declared war with Conservatives, not the other way around Josie.  They pissed us off by spending their money, not on the DEMS, but on real conservatives who had every intent of bucking the GOP establishment and putting people in who stood on principals.  I am freaking tired of lying assholes who promise us the world and then once in office become democrat lite.  Cruz is a much better pic then Rubio.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #6 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:22pm
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Seawolf wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:11pm:
You can leave it where ever you want but let me remind you that the GOP will lose if Jeb or any other RINO is elected.  The GOP declared war with Conservatives, not the other way around Josie.  They pissed us off by spending their money, not on the DEMS, but on real conservatives who had every intent of bucking the GOP establishment and putting people in who stood on principals.  I am freaking tired of lying assholes who promise us the world and then once in office become democrat lite.  Cruz is a much better pic then Rubio.

This mentality literally makes me want to throw up!

Do you not understand that we have to win a General Election here?
If the hard right RINO hunters get who they want, they will be the only ones voting for that person in a GE... the nominee has to be acceptable to as many people as possible. You select the most electable Conservative you can. If Ted Cruz can beat Trump God Bless him, I will support him all the way, but he is NOT our strongest GE candidate, so we will be fighting with our hands tied behind our backs as Cruz is pretty marginalized.
Rubio does best with Moderates and Independents and he's no effing RINO so just stop it with that shit already because you all have lost credibility by embracing the NY Liberal Donald Trump.
  
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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #7 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:25pm
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Josie wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
This mentality literally makes me want to throw up!

Do you not understand that we have to win a General Election here?
If the hard right RINO hunters get who they want, they will be the only ones voting for that person in a GE... the nominee has to be acceptable to as many people as possible. You select the most electable Conservative you can. If Ted Cruz can beat Trump God Bless him, I will support him all the way, but he is NOT our strongest GE candidate, so we will be fighting with our hands tied behind our backs as Cruz is pretty marginalized.
Rubio does best with Moderates and Independents and he's no effing RINO so just stop it with that shit already because you all have lost credibility by embracing the NY Liberal Donald Trump.



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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #8 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:35pm
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Josie wrote on Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
This mentality literally makes me want to throw up!

Do you not understand that we have to win a General Election here?
If the hard right RINO hunters get who they want, they will be the only ones voting for that person in a GE... the nominee has to be acceptable to as many people as possible. You select the most electable Conservative you can. If Ted Cruz can beat Trump God Bless him, I will support him all the way, but he is NOT our strongest GE candidate, so we will be fighting with our hands tied behind our backs as Cruz is pretty marginalized.
Rubio does best with Moderates and Independents and he's no effing RINO so just stop it with that shit already because you all have lost credibility by embracing the NY Liberal Donald Trump.

Can you read?  Honestly, I am trying not to go down the insult fest with you.  Tell you what Josie, I CHALLENGE you to link my support for Trump.  If you can find it I will mail you 100.00 for your Christmas.  You seem so blinded by your anger that you are not reading my post in the manner I wrote it.  I simply am expressing why so many people are flocking to Trump, maybe the Republican party can learn a thing or two from Trump because he's winning right now.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Remember this? The Republican Establishment hated Reagan before he became President
Reply #9 - Dec 11th, 2015 at 12:40pm
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The HONEST question Josie is What is Trump doing right?  That is the honest question that the party should ask itself and then try to capitalize on it, rather then lobbing softballs for Trump to hit out of the park.  You can scream and insult voters all you want but how does that change their minds.  Me and Jas had this discussion in a reasonable and thoughtful manner, despite my dislike for Trump, he has tapped into something.
  

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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