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Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:02pm
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He argues from Scripture, and makes my key point, muslims and us worship totally different Gods. But, I think he is a bit extreme on the question of Israel.
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 7:45pm
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MikeGlosterIII wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:02pm:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jacksonwu/2015/12/21/not-even-israel-worshiped-the-...

He argues from Scripture, and makes my key point, muslims and us worship totally different Gods. But, I think he is a bit extreme on the question of Israel.


From the blog post:

"Yet, the above texts make it clear––
not even those in Israel worshiped the same God."

And the "above texts" do not make that clear. What's clear is the presence of idolatry. But when Jesus talks to the Samaritan woman (from the north), he does not accuse her of worshiping a different god.
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #2 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 5:53pm
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Mercy For All wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 7:45pm:
From the blog post:

"Yet, the above texts make it clear––
not even those in Israel worshiped the same God."

And the "above texts" do not make that clear. What's clear is the presence of idolatry. But when Jesus talks to the Samaritan woman (from the north), he does not accuse her of worshiping a different god.


This is why I found him extreme about the Jews. Many are uncomfortable and unwilling to confront the fact that Jesus was a Second Temple, First Century Jew.. So, when He prayed, to whom were said prayers directed ? Was he creating a new God ? I think not.
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #3 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 6:07pm
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MikeGlosterIII wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 5:02pm:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/jacksonwu/2015/12/21/not-even-israel-worshiped-the-...

He argues from Scripture, and makes my key point, muslims and us worship totally different Gods. But, I think he is a bit extreme on the question of Israel.


A current blog post on the subject : http://blogs.thegospelcoalition.org/kevindeyoung/2015/12/23/the-church-between-t...
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #4 - Dec 27th, 2015 at 9:47pm
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Muslims do not worship the same God.
Jews that reject Jesus, the Son are also rejecting the Father. So they may pretend to worship the true God, but their worship is a stench, they are in rebellion.
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #5 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 6:51am
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fair-minded know it all wrote on Dec 27th, 2015 at 9:47pm:
Muslims do not worship the same God.
Jews that reject Jesus, the Son are also rejecting the Father. So they may pretend to worship the true God, but their worship is a stench, they are in rebellion. 


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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
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So if Muslims worship a different God due to their rejection of the Son, then so do Jews who reject the Son. You can't have it both ways.
  

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Re: Did the Jews worship the same God as we do ?
Reply #7 - Dec 28th, 2015 at 1:04pm
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Mercy For All wrote on Dec 28th, 2015 at 11:28am:
So if Muslims worship a different God due to their rejection of the Son, then so do Jews who reject the Son. You can't have it both ways.


Yes, Jesus is the rock of offense, the stumbling block that is the basis of any true worship of God.
The Jews did have real revelation concerning the true Messiah. Jesus seemed to clearly hold them accountable for not being ready or willing to receive Him in light of all the Revelation that pointed forward to Him.
We can argue semantics of course.  Yahweh, God revealed in the OT was and is still the true God.  They pretend to worship Him, but that worship is a stench, and false worship.  If you wish to call it Idolatry, or worshiping a false God I won't argue that point.  I believe, that technically it is.
I think my above comments were a little more accurate. That is that they pretend to worship the true God (Yahweh).
Allah on the other hand is false prophet revealed Idol.
  

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