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Reply #70 - Mar 6th, 2016 at 10:30pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 6th, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Poor judgement!!  You are trying to tell me, nevermind, I am talking to a ground pounder who is clueless to why this is such a big deal.  I could not give one rats ass Elmo who are what her or anyones elses party affiliation is, she took information that can cause GRAVE DAMAGE as the definition defines and store it on an UNAUTHORIZED SERVER.  PERMITTED!!  Would you like to show me where I could have kept secret intel while I served?  What regulation or law allows her to allow unregulated access and control of TS.  You are absolutely stupid regarding this topic!  The oh, she is sorry and did not know any better is a crock of bull shit.  End of story, run your mouth all you want but she signed an NDA just as I have signed and she was WELL AWARE of the implications of what she did which is felonious.  If you want to make excuses for her behavior despite putting sources and people at grave risk, then you are playing games with those we ask to put their own lives at risk.  You, a former member of our Armed Force ought to know better.  Truly amazing you put party allegiance before our nation's security.


With all due respect to your service as a first class petty officer, I think this is above your pay grade.  Best wishes.
  

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Reply #71 - Mar 7th, 2016 at 1:03pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 6th, 2016 at 9:43pm:
Poor judgement!!  You are trying to tell me, nevermind, I am talking to a ground pounder who is clueless to why this is such a big deal.  I could not give one rats ass Elmo who are what her or anyones elses party affiliation is, she took information that can cause GRAVE DAMAGE as the definition defines and store it on an UNAUTHORIZED SERVER.  PERMITTED!!  Would you like to show me where I could have kept secret intel while I served?  What regulation or law allows her to allow unregulated access and control of TS.  You are absolutely stupid regarding this topic!  The oh, she is sorry and did not know any better is a crock of bull shit.  End of story, run your mouth all you want but she signed an NDA just as I have signed and she was WELL AWARE of the implications of what she did which is felonious.  If you want to make excuses for her behavior despite putting sources and people at grave risk, then you are playing games with those we ask to put their own lives at risk.  You, a former member of our Armed Force ought to know better.  Truly amazing you put party allegiance before our nation's security.


Y'know CC, I read this tirade three times and I have no idea WTF you're talking about.

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Reply #72 - Mar 7th, 2016 at 2:50pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
Y'know CC, I read this tirade three times and I have no idea WTF you're talking about.

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I had a little trouble with it myself.  I think the gist of it is I am a partisan hack who puts party above country.  And I don't mind telling you, coming from one I am convinced does that very thing, it kind of stung.  I believe he thinks that he and folks such as Arch and the Rat Pack know a lot more about the Constitution and US laws enacted thereunder than anybody in the FBI, CIA, DOJ, DOD, NSA, etc. and is completely dumbfounded that lesser lights such as I and others can't see that.  He also appears to believe, because he basically said so (see #47, this thread), that if the FBI launches an investigation it is prima facie evidence of guilt on the part of the party or parties being investigated.  And assumptions like that probably were valid in dictatorial countries like East Germany, Cuba, USSR, etc. with respect to "investigations" launched by their equivalent to the FBI.  I think Seawolf would envision a trial like this:

JUDGE: Prosecutor, you may proceed.
PROSECUTOR: Your honor, we present as Exhibit A the fact that the FBI investigated the accused for the offense of which he is charged.  In this case, using poor judgment in selection of an e-mail account to use for official business.  The prosecution rests.
JUDGE: Defense, you're up.
DEFENSE: In the face of such overwhelming evidence of such a serious crime, we plead no contest and throw ourselves on the mercy of the court. 
JUDGE: Bailiff, lead the accused, now convicted, to the gallows.   And be snappy about it.  I have a golf game in 20 minutes. Court dismissed.
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Reply #73 - Mar 7th, 2016 at 7:50pm
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EF wrote on Mar 6th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
With all due respect to your service as a first class petty officer, I think this is above your pay grade.  Best wishes.

You are not offering any respect.  You are a ground pounder, so have the last word on something you have no experience in.  Typical circle jerk from the usual partisan hacks.  Good nite.
  


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Reply #74 - Mar 7th, 2016 at 9:30pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 7:50pm:
You are not offering any respect.  You are a ground pounder, so have the last word on something you have no experience in.  Typical circle jerk from the usual partisan hacks.  Good nite. 


OH... OK.... I got the gist of that tirade.  Geeze but you're getiing grouchy CC....

http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/03/07/foxs-bret-baier-devotes-8-town-hall-que...

Jaysus...

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Reply #75 - Mar 7th, 2016 at 10:16pm
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notime wrote on Mar 6th, 2016 at 5:13pm:
And I disagree. I believe she will represent me well. I guess that's what you're afraid of.


Sure, you are a socialist, and so is she. She will represent you and the Bernie followers and destroy what is left of the country after Obama. You want to be a peasant taken care of by the government. We real people don’t want that. This country has already fought and won freedom from one king. And don’t doubt my word. If need be, it will be done again. Why do you think your kind always wants our guns?
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Reply #76 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 9:08am
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Archie wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Sure, you are a socialist, and so is she. She will represent you and the Bernie followers and destroy what is left of the country after Obama. You want to be a peasant taken care of by the government. We real people don’t want that. This country has already fought and won freedom from one king. And don’t doubt my word. If need be, it will be done again. Why do you think your kind always wants our guns?
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Watch out, you commies!  You don't want to PO the Rat Pack!
  

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Reply #77 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 11:12am
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Archie wrote on Mar 7th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Sure, you are a socialist, and so is she. She will represent you and the Bernie followers and destroy what is left of the country after Obama. You want to be a peasant taken care of by the government. We real people don’t want that. This country has already fought and won freedom from one king. And don’t doubt my word. If need be, it will be done again. Why do you think your kind always wants our guns?
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I'm not sure why you think I am poor and on the public dole.
  
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Reply #78 - Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:21pm
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I think at its most basic level, its clear who the intellectual is..


we have an election coming up with a pres claiming terrorism is down, on almost a daily basis...

so Hillary writes an email to her daughter that they are in the midst of a terrorist attack (uncovered by these emails)...next day, she is telling people it was a random mob, got out of hand due to a video

people on the ground there are saying this is no angry mob - they have weapons of all sorts, even RPG's, well planned & executed...

susan rice gets booked on 5 shows in one day...all with a very specific story that it was this mob, angry due to a video...

as all this unfolds...Clinton begins to shift that no one really knew, it was a fog of war, changing info every minute...

rice is pressed who booked you on those shows, who gave you the specific talking points...rice says she doesn't know who booked her, who told her to go on, or where the talking points comes from...

now, I'd like to believe we can agree these are undisputed facts....and I'd like to believe we all know a lie and cover up when we see one as obvious as this...

there has been this massive pattern of lies, deceit, cover ups and no one is getting in any trouble...whether the irs, fast & furious, this email stuff, Benghazi, you can keep your own doc...

a souse wouldn't put up with it, your company certainly would not, you wouldn't let a friend treat you this way....

yet they all get a pass...why?
  
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Reply #79 - Mar 9th, 2016 at 9:55am
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petep wrote on Mar 8th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
I think at its most basic level, its clear who the intellectual is..


we have an election coming up with a pres claiming terrorism is down, on almost a daily basis...

so Hillary writes an email to her daughter that they are in the midst of a terrorist attack (uncovered by these emails)...next day, she is telling people it was a random mob, got out of hand due to a video

people on the ground there are saying this is no angry mob - they have weapons of all sorts, even RPG's, well planned & executed...

susan rice gets booked on 5 shows in one day...all with a very specific story that it was this mob, angry due to a video...

as all this unfolds...Clinton begins to shift that no one really knew, it was a fog of war, changing info every minute...

rice is pressed who booked you on those shows, who gave you the specific talking points...rice says she doesn't know who booked her, who told her to go on, or where the talking points comes from...

now, I'd like to believe we can agree these are undisputed facts....and I'd like to believe we all know a lie and cover up when we see one as obvious as this...

there has been this massive pattern of lies, deceit, cover ups and no one is getting in any trouble...whether the irs, fast & furious, this email stuff, Benghazi, you can keep your own doc...

a souse wouldn't put up with it, your company certainly would not, you wouldn't let a friend treat you this way....

yet they all get a pass...why?


Maybe they're not getting a pass.  Maybe it's a little more complicated than your simplistic presentation.  Because I can assure you, we do not all believe your presentation consists of "undisputed facts."  Nor does Seawolf's. Or Archie's.  Or a host of other "unbiased" patriots who frequent this board.

But while we're asking questions, how come Bushie and Cheney got a pass for starting a war over "bad intelligence" while ignoring "good intelligence" (the good being the intelligence against existence of WMD in Iraq)?
  

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