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May 17th, 2016 at 4:46pm
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... I was looking for evidence of oppression by British courts of faith positions, and this came up from a few years ago:


https://humanism.org.uk/campaigns/successful-campaigns/atheist-bus-campaign/

... which I remember was rather well received even by religious groups (apart from Christian Voice which is a small bunch of humourless wankers).

What do you religious people think?
  

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Reply #1 - May 17th, 2016 at 5:07pm
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Limey wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 4:46pm:
... I was looking for evidence of oppression by British courts of faith positions, and this came up from a few years ago:


https://humanism.org.uk/campaigns/successful-campaigns/atheist-bus-campaign/

... which I remember was rather well received even by religious groups (apart from Christian Voice which is a small bunch of humourless wankers).

What do you religious people think?



Were this done here, and it or something similar has, because we have a written Bill of Rights, with guarantees for freedom of speech and religion, there would be no need to look over the shoulder at some government agency to shape the ads. And we could , write ,preach, or stand on the corner and attack said ads, without worrying about some bobby showing up. The value of a written bill of Rights cannot be appreciated enough !
  

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Reply #2 - May 25th, 2016 at 5:25am
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MikeGlosterIII wrote on May 17th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
Were this done here, and it or something similar has, because we have a written Bill of Rights, with guarantees for freedom of speech and religion, there would be no need to look over the shoulder at some government agency to shape the ads. And we could , write ,preach, or stand on the corner and attack said ads, without worrying about some bobby showing up. The value of a written bill of Rights cannot be appreciated enough !



Are you sure about that?

Scenario :

I stand outside your house shouting "Mike is a wanker! He is a bastard! The son of a bitch deserves to burn! I really find him a loathsome individual!  And that shirt is very unbecoming!"  all day, can't you take any action about this?


  

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Reply #3 - May 25th, 2016 at 10:49am
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Limey wrote on May 25th, 2016 at 5:25am:
Are you sure about that?

Scenario :

I stand outside your house shouting "Mike is a wanker! He is a bastard! The son of a bitch deserves to burn! I really find him a loathsome individual!  And that shirt is very unbecoming!"  all day, can't you take any action about this?





About thirty years ago, a couple dozen of us did exactly that. We picketed the home of the owner of an abortion clinic. Of course, she called the police All they could do was make sure we stayed on the public sidewalk or street, and kept our chanting real low so as not to disturb the neighbors. After about ten minutes, the police asked us, as a favor to them, as they were really shorthanded that night, to wrap it up. We did as asked. It was most of our opinions that it was a waste of time, and it was never repeated. BTW, after nearly forty years in operation, and thousands of babies murdered, the clinic was shut down for good back over a year ago.
  

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Reply #4 - May 26th, 2016 at 3:26pm
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MikeGlosterIII wrote on May 25th, 2016 at 10:49am:
About thirty years ago, a couple dozen of us did exactly that. We picketed the home of the owner of an abortion clinic. Of course, she called the police All they could do was make sure we stayed on the public sidewalk or street, and kept our chanting real low so as not to disturb the neighbors. After about ten minutes, the police asked us, as a favor to them, as they were really shorthanded that night, to wrap it up. We did as asked. It was most of our opinions that it was a waste of time, and it was never repeated. BTW, after nearly forty years in operation, and thousands of babies murdered, the clinic was shut down for good back over a year ago.



Well, that's a good tale of how unfettered freedom of speech works for you.

What if it was, say, a white  racist group chanting outside a black person's house?

Basic question is, as usual, when your right to do something butts up against someone else's right not to have it done, what do we do?

  

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Reply #5 - May 28th, 2016 at 9:20am
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Limey wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 3:26pm:
Well, that's a good tale of how unfettered freedom of speech works for you.

What if it was, say, a white  racist group chanting outside a black person's house? 




You don't see a difference between harassing  people for their skin color, and protesting someone for killing thousands of infants?  Sad
Personally I'd stick to protesting the business itself.
  

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fair-minded know it all wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:20am:
You don't see a difference between harassing  people for their skin color, and protesting someone for killing thousands of infants?  Sad
Personally I'd stick to protesting the business itself.


Ah.... So freedom of speech doesn't apply to racist groups.

Are there any other limitations?
  

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Limey wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 1:32pm:
Ah.... So freedom of speech doesn't apply to racist groups.

Are there any other limitations?


I didn't say it didn't apply.
  

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Reply #8 - May 29th, 2016 at 6:47am
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fair-minded know it all wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:48pm:
I didn't say it didn't apply.

Did you say anything at all? Roll Eyes
  

Non sequitur:

Bert Number 49 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Reply #9 - May 29th, 2016 at 8:37am
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BowHunter wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 6:47am:
Did you say anything at all? Roll Eyes


Freedom of speech applies to all.  Perhaps you may be old enough to remember this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_...

That said, there are legitimate protests and others.
  

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