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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #20 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 10:54am
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:21am:
For intelligent people, yes.


That's actually hilarious on a couple levels.
  

"Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influences, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist." J M Keynes

"In the first place, the dichotomy between "theoretical" and "practical" is a false one. In economics, all arguments are theoretical. And, since economics discusses the real world, these theoretical arguments are by their nature "practical" ones as well." M Rothbard
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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #21 - Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:39pm
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Limey wrote on Jan 30th, 2017 at 9:11pm:
Good thing He loves us and shows it by cancer, poverty, war, floods, storms and Piers Morgan then.

Cancer:  God causes people to eat wrong, smoke, drink, take drugs?
Poverty:  God causes people to not work or want to work and be apethetic?
War:  God causes people to hate and kill?
Floods and Storms: Ok these are natural, but people choose to build in known flood plains.  Does He cause idiots to stay and have hurricane parties or not seek shelter in a tornado?
Piers Morgan:  That's all on Piers Morgan

At the end of the day, God is not concerned about our brief mortal existence, but our eternal existence.  Dying of cancer in this life is nothing but a bad manicure within the eternal point of view.  You can't have a good life here if you think this is all there is.  It will either be too tough or too short.
  


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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #22 - Feb 6th, 2017 at 8:25am
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Goose wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 9:39pm:
Cancer:  God causes people to eat wrong, smoke, drink, take drugs?



People get cancer whilst living healthy lives.

People get cancer due to workplace or environmental factors.

Some things are highly carcinogenic,  but we don't know about them until it's too late for some (a bit like asbestos).

You are victim-blaming.
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Poverty:  God causes people to not work or want to work and be apethetic?


Many, or most, people in poverty also work very hard.

You are victim-blaming.

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War:  God causes people to hate and kill?


Most victims of war are non-combatants.

You are victim-blaming.

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Floods and Storms: Ok these are natural, but people choose to build in known flood plains.  Does He cause idiots to stay and have hurricane parties or not seek shelter in a tornado?


All the Bangladeshi people affected by floods should move to Colorado or the Highlands of Scotland.

Got it.

You are victim-blaming.

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Piers Morgan:  That's all on Piers Morgan


Yeah, but we should hunt down all the TV executives who ever let him open his irritating gob on screen,  too.
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At the end of the day, God is not concerned about our brief mortal existence, but our eternal existence.  Dying of cancer in this life is nothing but a bad manicure within the eternal point of view.  You can't have a good life here if you think this is all there is.  It will either be too tough or too short.



I'm sure you believe that, and feel smugly justified in ignoring the problems of others.
  

Under Capitalism, Man exploits Man.

Under Communism, it's the exact opposite.
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Reply #23 - Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:09pm
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Too many supposed gawds to talk about any one of them being anything at all.
  
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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #24 - Mar 29th, 2017 at 5:51pm
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Dusty Roads wrote on Mar 28th, 2017 at 1:09pm:
Too many supposed gawds to talk about any one of them being anything at all.

Because rather then accept the one true Living God man has made false gods to appease their conscious.  All other religions would have you believe you can do good works to get into heaven and God says you can not, you are not capable of good works.
  


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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #25 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 3:04am
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 29th, 2017 at 5:51pm:
Because rather then accept the one true Living God man has made false gods to appease their conscious.  All other religions would have you believe you can do good works to get into heaven and God says you can not, you are not capable of good works.


With so many false gods roaming around (hundreds of them), what a stroke of fortune that you picked the "real one", or did you?
  

Non sequitur:

The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #26 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 6:26am
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BowHunter wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 3:04am:
With so many false gods roaming around (hundreds of them), what a stroke of fortune that you picked the "real one", or did you?

Every religion man has conjured up does exactly what the God of the Bible tells us we are incapable of doing, works, to get to heaven.  Was not a stroke of fortune, just common sense and the ability to validate God.  I always marvel at so called atheist who actually believe that nothing can create something.  Using that logic we could say that a car could just magically appear, or a house...  I also find it amazing that there is science in the Bible that took mankind thousands of years to replicate.
  


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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #27 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 7:09am
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 30th, 2017 at 6:26am:
Every religion man has conjured up does exactly what the God of the Bible tells us we are incapable of doing, works, to get to heaven.  Was not a stroke of fortune, just common sense and the ability to validate God.  I always marvel at so called atheist who actually believe that nothing can create something.  Using that logic we could say that a car could just magically appear, or a house...  I also find it amazing that there is science in the Bible that took mankind thousands of years to replicate.

Yeah, it's good that your "superior mind" that allows you to dismiss in an instant the myriad of "false" gods (that other less brilliant people wasted a lifetime worshipping ) and find the "only one", prevented you to go astray and risk eternal damnation by choosing the "wrong book".

So now there's science in the bible? Grin

You mean like when they say that the earth was once inundated up to the mountains or that a man was swallowed by a fish for three days and survived?

Some science! Roll Eyes
  

Non sequitur:

The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: What thinkest thou, was God transgender ?
Reply #28 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 7:40am
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The Earth and Space

The earth’s shape is perhaps the most important to deal with first since many critics claim that the Bible portrays the earth as flat. This couldn’t be farther from the truth and in my opinion is one of the most vaporous arguments used by skeptics against the Bible. There is not a single passage that plainly states that the earth is flat1. The groundswell of this criticism gets its roots from the inaccurate but common belief among many that the ancients on up through the middle ages believed that the earth was flat. The truth is, virtually all learned people have known for the last 2500 years that the earth is spherical [please see footnote 2].

Before the learned ancients surmised that the earth was spherical, the divinely inspired Isaiah wrote “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth…(Isaiah 40:22)”. In addition, from the Book of Job we have “He stretches out the north over empty space; he hangs the earth on nothing (Job 26:7)”. It should be noted that just last century scientists believed space consisted of a hypothetical substance called Ether (not the chemical), which was the medium between the celestial bodies.  Also, the pagans of that time believed in such things as a mythical Atlas character who supported the pillars that held heaven and earth apart, and later carried the earth around on his shoulders. Another interesting tidbit that illuminates the divine nature of Job 26:7 is the recent discovery of a huge hole in space in the direction of the northern hemisphere3.

First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics

The 1st Law of Thermodynamics states that matter can be neither created nor destroyed, and that the amount of matter in the universe remains constant. If the First Law is correct, which every scientific measurement ever made has confirmed, then the universe could not have created itself, it must have been created in the past, no further creating must be going on, and no loss of creation is occurring. The Bible is the only religious book that correctly portrays the First Law by 1) its description in Genesis of a Creator who is no longer creating, and 2) a Creator who is “upholding all things by the word of his power (Heb 1:3)” .

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which states that all systems degenerate from order to disorder, was regarded by Albert Einstein to be the premier Law in science. Again the Bible is the only religious book to accurately describe this Law: “For the heavens will vanish away like smoke, the earth will grow old like a garment… (Isa 51:6)”, and also a New Testament rendering: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; and they will all grow old like a garment; (Heb 1:10-11)”

The Hydrologic Cycle

The circulation and conservation of earth’s water is called the hydrologic cycle, which is accurately portrayed in several passages of the Bible, including the following: “For He draws up drops of water, which distill as rain from the mist, which the clouds drop down and pour abundantly on man. (Job 36:27-28)” .Centuries after the Book of Job was written, Aristotle demonstrated only a vague understanding of this process. Though he recognized that rain came from clouds, he incorrectly postulated that air turned into water and vice versa.

It has only recently been learned that most clouds are formed by ocean evaporation, but again the Bible had it right centuries ago: “All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full; to the place from which the rivers come, there they return again (Eccl 1:7)”.   The complex nature of how water is supported in clouds despite being heavier than air is clearly implied when God declared to Job “Do you know how the clouds are balanced, those wondrous works of Him who is perfect in knowledge (Job 37:16).

The value of Pi

In the verse of the Bible that contains a circumference and diameter (1 Kings 7:23), the Hebrew word for circumference contains an extra character at the end that can only add value to the word by applying Gematria (each Hebrew letter also represents a number). When taking the ratio of the added character to the value of the original word, the value of Pi is achieved to within 4 decimal places! A more in-depth article by Chuck Missler can be found here.

Ocean Currents

Scientists have only recently discovered springs of water in the depths of the oceans4. Perhaps this is what the Bible is referring to in the following: “Have you entered the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths? (Job 38:16)”.
  


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Reply #29 - Mar 30th, 2017 at 7:41am
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Man from Dust

Researchers at NASA’s Ames Research Center confirmed that every element in man can be found in the soil, prompting one of the scientists to say “…the biblical scenario for the creation of life turns out to be not far off the mark”5.



Gravitational Properties of Constellations

God asked Job “Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion?”(Job 38:31). In the last century astrophysicists have discovered that the stars of Pleiades move in unison with each other, and are thus gravitationally bound. They have also discovered that the stars in the belt of Orion are free agents that are not gravitationally bound!6 Interestingly, the three stars that comprise Orion’s belt appear to be closer  together than the outer stars in the constellation, but are actually farther apart! (they appear closer together because of the 2-D plane we see them in).

Vast number of stars in the Universe

God said to Abraham ‘Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.’ And He said to him, ‘So shall your descendants be.'(Gen 15:5)”. And through the prophet Jeremiah,‘As the host of heaven (stars) cannot be numbered, nor the sand of the sea measured, so will I multiply the descendants of David My servant (Jeremiah 33:22). And finally, in the New Testament“Therefore from one man, …were born as many as the stars of the sky in multitude– innumerable as the sand which is by the
seashore. (Hebrews 11:12)”

Before the invention of the telescope in 1608, scientists throughout history, including the famous astronomer Ptolemy (150 AD), taught that the total number of stars in the heavens was under 3000. On a clear night the naked eye can only count about 1000 stars. However, because of telescopes such as the Hubble, we now know there are countless billions upon billions of stars in the universe – just as God had revealed to us several thousand years ago through the Bible.



Precise dimensions of Noah’s Ark

The dimensions of Noah’s Ark as described in the Bible are ideal for stability. In fact, South Korean architects who examined the dimensions found that the boat was virtually impossible to capsize! Their modeling and analysis found that the ark could survive waves higher than 30 meters! (note that a typical tsunami is only 10 meters high) 7. Many other cultures have flood legends similar to the account in the Bible, but their ark descriptions were never palatable.  For example, the Babylonian Gilgamesh Flood legend described an ark that was shaped like a cube, which would be horrible for stability. 8
  


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