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Re: The Illusion of Self, The Illusion of Freewill, The Allusion to Illusion Thread
Reply #20 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:18am
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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 1:30am:
Or people just aren't interested.


Nonsense jibberish.  Your clusters of neurons are firing incoherently.
  

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Reply #21 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:23am
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Nazi Hunter B.S.C. wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:18am:
Nonsense jibberish.  Your clusters of neurons are firing incoherently.

Perhaps but I don't have to pathetically nudge my own threads.
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 4:34am
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Josie wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 1:47am:
I want to post in this topic just to annoy Frank.


The myriad of factors that went into your desire to post in this thread were out of your control.  You had no freewill in the matter.  THAT'S the illusion, maybe freewill doesn't exist and never did.  God really does have a plan perhaps.   Undecided
  

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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:23am:
Perhaps but I don't have to pathetically nudge my own threads.


My neurons firing indicates that I do not care for you.  You'll have to pardon my extensive library of past experiences.
  

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Re: The Illusion of Self, The Illusion of Freewill, The Allusion to Illusion Thread
Reply #24 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 8:44am
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Nazi Hunter B.S.C. wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 4:34am:
The myriad of factors that went into your desire to post in this thread were out of your control.  You had no freewill in the matter.  THAT'S the illusion, maybe freewill doesn't exist and never did.  God really does have a plan perhaps.   Undecided

I would agree that our desires and wishes are out of our control.

Rather that stimulus is channeled into an action that we do in fact select as a means to achieve our goals. It is that purposefulness that is the hallmark of a will.
  

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Reply #25 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:42pm
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The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:23am:
Perhaps but I don't have to pathetically nudge my own threads.


Do you actually ever make your own threads? I  don't think I've seen one of yours.
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Reply #26 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:43pm
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Nazi Hunter B.S.C. wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:42pm:
Do you actually ever make your own threads? I  don't think I've seen one of yours ever.   Grin

He knows how to circle jerk one and ruin it for everyone else.
  

Non sequitur:

The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Reply #27 - Jan 24th, 2017 at 3:59pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Jan 24th, 2017 at 8:44am:
I would agree that our desires and wishes are out of our control.

Rather that stimulus is channeled into an action that we do in fact select as a means to achieve our goals. It is that purposefulness that is the hallmark of a will.


If those stimuli, desires and wishes our out of our control, why should we then believe we can control our choices?  For whatever reason, the chemical soup in your head made you post in this thread, forced you to like some kind of oppressive regime. 

If you had managed to refrain from posting, that wouldn't have been a choice either.  The past experiences and emotions that make up the ever changing you, would either cause you to post or cause you not to post or perhaps cause you to make a coffee or tea. 

It's very nihilistic I suppose, but scientifically, that's where we're at.  Science tells us that no one is really anyone.  We're all the same.

We have been assimilated  and I call dibs on 7 of 9!

  

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Reply #28 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:32pm
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Bump for rabbit and possible sexual innuendo.
  

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Re: The Illusion of Self, The Illusion of Freewill, The Allusion to Illusion Thread
Reply #29 - Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:34pm
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Nazi Hunter B.S.C. wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:32pm:
Bump for rabbit and possible sexual innuendo.



Forget about innuendo... Let's talk about in her endo!!!!
  

Non sequitur:

The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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