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Re: Spies Keep Trump in Dark on Intelligence in Sign of Mistrust
Reply #10 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:34am:
So, nothing has really changed in the process, just the motivation, because of concerns over potential WH leaks.

What's also different is that there appears to be growing antagonism between the President and our intelligence agencies. That needs to get sorted quickly.


You bet there's been a change, the least trustworthy president in history.

But in these previous cases in which information was withheld, the decision wasn’t motivated by a concern about a president’s trustworthiness or discretion, the current and former officials said.
  

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Re: Spies Keep Trump in Dark on Intelligence in Sign of Mistrust
Reply #11 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:09pm
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Capt. Obvious B.S.C. wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
But in these previous cases in which information was withheld, the decision wasn’t motivated by a concern about a president’s trustworthiness or discretion, the current and former officials said.

Yes, that's the change in motivation I mentioned. There's been no change in what's withheld - based on the various articles I've seen on this. Intelligence agencies don't typically provide raw data or details on how it was obtained; that hasn't changed.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:16pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
Yes, that's the change in motivation I mentioned. There's been no change in what's withheld - based on the various articles I've seen on this. Intelligence agencies don't typically provide raw data or details on how it was obtained; that hasn't changed.


Great!  We'll have a president even more in the dark and ignorant than he already is.   Wink
  

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Re: Spies Keep Trump in Dark on Intelligence in Sign of Mistrust
Reply #13 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:23pm
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Capt. Obvious B.S.C. wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:16pm:
Great!  We'll have a president even more in the dark and ignorant than he already is.

Not really. President's don't normally see this info, and they don't need the raw data (the HUMINT, SIGINT, etc). They need the final product which is what is produced after the raw data has been analysed.

Where he would be more in the dark is if he decided to completely reject the intelligence community's analysis.
  
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Reply #14 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:07pm
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LOL you folks have gotten in the barrel & gone over the ridiculous falls, happy landing hope you can swim   Cheesy
  
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Reply #15 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm
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Harry wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 11:54am:
This is fake news.


"Very fake news"
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:49am
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Fact of the matter is the intelligence agencies aren't exactly independent like what we're led to believe.  And we will like likely see this pretty quick when Trump cleans house.
  

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Re: Spies Keep Trump in Dark on Intelligence in Sign of Mistrust
Reply #17 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 6:17am
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Lomelis wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:49am:
Fact of the matter is the intelligence agencies aren't exactly independent like what we're led to believe.  And we will like likely see this pretty quick when Trump cleans house.


In that regard, the military also leans left.   Wink
  

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