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Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
Feb 16th, 2017 at 6:11pm
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Chalk up another "L" for the Orangutan.



     Donald Trump is trying to convince his preferred candidate to succeed Michael Flynn as national security adviser to change his mind after the retired admiral tapped for the role told the US president that he could not accept the White House position, according to two people familiar with the situation.


Mr Trump asked Robert Harward, a retired navy special forces officer to succeed Mr Flynn, who was fired as national security adviser on Monday. At a press conference on Thursday, he said his decision to replace Mr Flynn had been made easier because he had an “outstanding” candidate to serve as a replacement.

But Mr Harward is said to have turned Mr Trump down. “Harward is conflicted between the call of duty and the obvious dysfunctionality,” said one person with first hand knowledge of the discussions between Mr Trump and Mr Harward. The second person said Mr Trump had asked Mr Harward to return to the White House for another meeting to try to change his mind.



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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
Reply #1 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 6:55pm
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Vice Admiral Robert Harward has rejected President Trump’s offer to be the new national security adviser, CBS News’ Major Garrett reports.

Sources close to the situation told Garrett Harward and the administration had a dispute over over staffing the security council.

Two sources close to the situation confirm Harward Harward demanded his own team, and the White House resisted. Specifically, Mr. Trump told Deputy National Security Adviser K. T. McFarland that she could retain her post, even after the ouster of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Harward refused to keep McFarland as his deputy, and after a day of negotiations over this and other staffing matters, Harward declined to serve as Flynn’s replacement.


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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
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Josie wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 6:55pm:




Well, with the way the Trump Administration has been going at the moment, would you want Trump calling those shots?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
  
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Phillip 2.0 wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Well, with the way the Trump Administration has been going at the moment, would you want Trump calling those shots?  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I have my reservations about this administration, but I also know that the media and the left would be giving any president with an 'R' next to their name pure hell... they would be trying to make Pence look unfit or Rubio, that's how they roll.
  
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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
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Josie wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
I have my reservations about this administration, but I also know that the media and the left would be giving any president with an 'R' next to their name pure hell... they would be trying to make Pence look unfit or Rubio, that's how they roll.

How does the Republicans "roll" with democrats.
  

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Josie wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:06pm:
I have my reservations about this administration, but I also know that the media and the left would be giving any president with an 'R' next to their name pure hell... they would be trying to make Pence look unfit or Rubio, that's how they roll.

You are probably right, but I think the media is *ESPECIALLY* angry because it is Donald Trump who is in the White House right now. I think they could have lived with Rubio or Pence or even Cruz, but the idea that Donald Trump beat their beloved Hillary especially has them enraged. It's quite delicious. Smiley
  


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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
Reply #6 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm
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Jasmine wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:11pm:
You are probably right, but I think the media is *ESPECIALLY* angry because it is Donald Trump who is in the White House right now. I think they could have lived with Rubio or Pence or even Cruz, but the idea that Donald Trump beat their beloved Hillary especially has them enraged. It's quite delicious. Smiley

Which is so odd to me. Trump kept Obamas LGBTQ executive order (that is very bad for religious freedom) in place and the SC Judge he selected goes to a LGBTQ friendly "church" with a female preacher. Trumps daughter has her daddys ear and she is a pure liberal... you would think this would make libs happy... it sure pisses me off
  
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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
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Josie wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:17pm:
Which is so odd to me. Trump kept Obamas LGBTQ executive order (that is very bad for religious freedom) in place and the SC Judge he selected goes to a LGBTQ friendly "church" with a female preacher. Trumps daughter has her daddys ear and she is a pure liberal... you would think this would make libs happy... it sure pisses me off

It just shows that the media are as stupid as their liberal readers. It's all about R's vs D's for some reason.
  


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Re: Trump's National Security Advisor replacement says "No Thanks"
Reply #9 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:15am
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Trump’s Public Humiliation

By rejecting the national security adviser job, Robert Harward gave cover to every professional who wants to turn the president down.


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Donald Trump isn’t accustomed to hearing prospective underlings say “No.” So it came as a shock when retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward—his first choice to replace Michael Flynn as national security adviser—told the president he’d have to think about the offer. It must have been a double shock when, a few days later, Harward turned him down flat.

The rejection is stunning in several ways that go well beyond the scope of Trump’s personal sensitivities. First, it is very unusual—almost unheard of—for a senior military officer, retired or otherwise, to turn down a request from the commander-in-chief.

Second, and largely for that reason, by rejecting the offer Harward has provided cover to other officers, and to civilian national-security analysts with a similar sense of patriotic duty, to turn down this president, too. Service, in this case, is not its own reward and by no stretch worth the sacrifice.

Third, the Financial Times, Washington Post, CNN, and other news outlets are reporting that Harward turned down the offer in part because Trump wouldn’t let him fire several officials that Flynn had hired for his staff and install his own team instead. This suggests that Trump is adamant on keeping certain people loyal to him—including Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland, a former Fox News commentator who Trump admired. The news reports don’t mention whether Harward made demands about Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief political strategist, who wrote the executive order that placed himself on the NSC Principals Committee and has created a parallel NSC structure called the Strategic Initiatives Group, comprised of a few extreme right-wing associates. But any serious person would insist on the dismantling of this weird group as another condition for taking the job.

The national security adviser plays several roles. He or she chairs the Principals Committee, the interagency group of Cabinet secretaries and top military and intelligence officers who help make decisions on high matters of policy; coordinates the NSC staff, which includes a few dozen political appointees and a couple hundred professional analysts; and advises the president, to the extent the president wants to be advised. In other words, to make the job worthwhile, the adviser must have close access to the president and clear lines of authority over the national-security bureaucracy.

Trump would not guarantee Harward this sort of authority, so Harward turned the job down. The Post reported that Harward was also reluctant to accept the offer for financial reasons, worried that leaving his job as a senior executive at Lockheed Martin would hurt his family. Yet few military officers—especially retired generals and admirals—let such factors get in the way of serving the president. CNN quoted one of Harward’s friends saying that, in mulling over the decision, he was persuaded most of all by the sheer dysfunction of Trump’s presidency, describing the job he was offered as “a shit sandwich.”

Harward would have come to the job with the experience of a warrior, a commander, an analyst, and a staff officer. In his 38 years as a Navy officer, he had been a SEAL, the deputy commander of U.S. Central Command, the representative of the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff at the National Counterterrorism Center, and the director of strategy and policy on the National Security Council staff.

In other words, Trump was given a choice: cater to the loyalty and ambitions of his political operatives, who have no competence whatsoever in national security affairs—or install a professional who can build and maintain a functioning national-security apparatus. He chose the former.

Harward would also have had a link to Secretary of Defense James Mattis, who was commander of U.S. Central Command when Harward was its deputy. It’s possible that some in Trump’s inner circle, especially Bannon, wouldn’t want there to be these sorts of ties, as they could be used to bypass the White House and circumvent his own power.

Trump may now have a hard time filling the position with anyone whose qualifications or prominence would help calm the jitters of allies worldwide—and foreign-policy specialists here—who are wondering what the hell is going on with this president. At the moment, retired Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg, a competent administrator who had been the NSC’s chief of staff, is the acting national security adviser, and it may be that Trump will have to settle on him as the successor.

Three weeks into his term, Trump heads a White House with three or four vacant power centers. He has no national security adviser, a half-full NSC staff, hollow Defense and State Departments (where Trump has yet to nominate any deputy or undersecretaries), and the secretaries heading those departments—Mattis and Rex Tillerson—who, however smart and talented they may be, have never run a federal agency.


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