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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #10 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:48pm
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^ Stu, there actually is a draft memo which calls for use of the National Guard, which is what lead to questions by the AP and others, leading to denials by the WH, DHS and National Guard.
  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
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The FAKE NEWS liberal media at it again, while they are being laughed at and mocked for it ..  Smiley

  

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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #12 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:49pm
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Sounds good to me anyway - a legitimate function of the guard would be to deal with invaders.
  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #13 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:50pm
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Josie wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
First of all the draft memo doesn't specify 100,000 National Guard would be mobilized or that they would be rounding up aliens like the AP said (which is where this story originated) 

Look up the Section 287g program.

http://www.heritage.org/homeland-security/report/section-287g-the-right-answer-s...
  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #14 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:51pm
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Also the media is characterizing 287(g) agreements as "militarization" of immigration enforcement and that is not what the memo says.
  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #15 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:54pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:48pm:
^ Stu, there actually is a draft memo which calls for use of the National Guard, which is what lead to questions by the AP and others, leading to denials by the WH, DHS and National Guard.


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Of course there is, as there WOULD be for contingency plans for almost anything where manpower is needed.. BUT, who from Trump's administration said anything about Trump using up to 100,000 National Guardsmen to start activating his immigration laws?

It was FAKE NEWS, period! Smiley
  

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Reply #16 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:54pm
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Josie wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
It says nothing about nationalizing the Guard..

From the AP Story:

"The troops would not be nationalized, remaining under state control."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830/trump-weighs-mob...

Also, the 100,000 number comes from the number of National Guard troops in these states. The AP doesn't say that number is in the memo; the article says "as many as 100,000" based on the NG numbers in these states.
  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #17 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm
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My question would be "If there were no intention of doing something like this, why the memo in the first place?"


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Reply #18 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:07pm
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Demos wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
From the AP Story:

"The troops would not be nationalized, remaining under state control."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830/trump-weighs-mob...

Also, the 100,000 number comes from the number of National Guard troops in these states. The AP doesn't say that number is in the memo; the article says "as many as 100,000" based on the NG numbers in these states.


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The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana.

  
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Re: Trump considers using National Guard to round up illegals.... or not?
Reply #19 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:21pm
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Josie wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
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You said it claimed nationalization. It doesn't. In fact, explicitly says the opposite.

You also suggested the report was making up the 100,000 numbers. It didn't.

It does talk about militarization. And given that the draft involved the National Guard in immigration enforcement, that's not an unfair characterization.

However, you've made several claims anout the AP report which aren't correct. Trying to deflect by bringing up militarization doesn't deflect from that.
  
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