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Reply #60 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:26pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
False:

http://lpntobsnonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Pell-Graph-Chart.jpg


False:

http://www.collegecalc.org/colleges/california/glendale-community-college/



How it used to be:  I worked like a devil to survive as an undergrad, and worked as a teaching assistant in grad school.

There isn't any FREE ride, unless you are a non-Asian minority.

That only shows the cost of Pell grants, not the amount of people who actually get them.  The cost has gone up because college tuition has gone up.  Which means more money for less students.
  

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Reply #61 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:28pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
False:

http://lpntobsnonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Pell-Graph-Chart.jpg


False:

http://www.collegecalc.org/colleges/california/glendale-community-college/



How it used to be:  I worked like a devil to survive as an undergrad, and worked as a teaching assistant in grad school.

There isn't any FREE ride, unless you are a non-Asian minority.

There is no free ride period.
  

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Reply #62 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:32pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:26pm:
That only shows the cost of Pell grants, not the amount of people who actually get them. 


It shows that the amount of the available grant has gone up.

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The cost has gone up because college tuition has gone up.  Which means more money for less students.


Lessseee - don't your fellow libs run the universities?   Why don't you have a word with them?  Why don't you join the movement to reform or (much better) abolish the government schools, seeing what kind of students they turn out?

  
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Reply #63 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:42pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:32pm:
It shows that the amount of the available grant has gone up.


Lessseee - don't your fellow libs run the universities?   Why don't you have a word with them?  Why don't you join the movement to reform or (much better) abolish the government schools, seeing what kind of students they turn out?


You mean for profit education?????

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The for-profit higher education industry was the target of a bruising report issued last week. Based on a two-year effort, the report detailed high rates of loan default, aggressive recruiting, higher than average tuition, low retention rates, and little job placement assistance. It was spearheaded by Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, a longtime critic of the industry. (ProPublica has written a number of pieces looking more closely at the explosive growth sector, including questionable recruiting and marketing.)


https://www.propublica.org/article/the-for-profit-higher-education-industry-by-t...
  

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Reply #64 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 10:13pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
Military is not training classes, college or trade school.  It is the military.  Something totally different than what this conversation is about.

Can you not read?  Every airman is enrolled in the fully accredited junior college of the air force and their threading is accredited as college hours.  Plus an electrician, for example, in the marines can do anything a civilian can do.

All military jobs provide skills that translate into the civilian world, at a bare minimum critical thinking and leadership skills as well as discipline.
  


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Reply #65 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 10:16pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
You are still missing the point or avoiding the point.  Everyone is not going to get a scholarship to school.  Now give me an example has to how anyone, any average joe blow can get trading for a skill at a low cost. 

You really suck at this. 

First of all dont be an average Joe blow.  As I said, if you are unwilling to achieve you won't and that is your fault only.  If you suck and your life sucks it's because you suck and need to stop.
  


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Reply #66 - Mar 17th, 2017 at 10:19pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Hmmm......Work full time and have a full load in school and kids.  Sure Roll Eyes

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Reply #67 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 10:49am
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Goose wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Both of them, nite just one
Where there is a will three is a way

Sure Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #68 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 10:55am
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Goose wrote on Mar 17th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
You really suck at this. 

First of all dont be an average Joe blow.  As I said, if you are unwilling to achieve you won't and that is your fault only.  If you suck and your life sucks it's because you suck and need to stop.

There you go.  It is always your fault if you don't get a break.  Sometimes people find themselves in situations where it is almost impossible to get ahead.  Like if you are stuck in a MW job, have a couple of kids that you are raising alone and just don't have any money to spare to get a skill.  Sure it is easy if you just graduated and still live with your parents or you have a spouse who is supporting you furthering your education.  But if you have no support and no money or no time to go to school because you are raising kids as a single parent, it is hard.  Everyone is not smart enough to get a scholarship, Pell Grants are not available to everyone.
  

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Reply #69 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:23am
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Wadsworth wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 10:55am:
There you go.  It is always your fault if you don't get a break.  Sometimes people find themselves in situations where it is almost impossible to get ahead.  Like if you are stuck in a MW job, have a couple of kids that you are raising alone and just don't have any money to spare to get a skill.  Sure it is easy if you just graduated and still live with your parents or you have a spouse who is supporting you furthering your education.  But if you have no support and no money or no time to go to school because you are raising kids as a single parent, it is hard.  Everyone is not smart enough to get a scholarship, Pell Grants are not available to everyone. 


Why are people single parents?   Why do taxpayers owe it to everyone who has screwed up their life to pay all their bills?
  
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