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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #30 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:45am
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 16th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
do you really know so little?

we fought the people of Vietnam in their war for independence, 1st we aided the French who got their asses kicked, then we propped up the dictator/asshole Diem in his refusal to have free and fair elections to reunite the country – which led to our idiotic war against the people of Vietnam – north and south 


http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/l/lagguth-vietnam.html



By underwriting more than 75 percent of France's military expenses, the United States had spent as much as $2 billion to keep the French in Indochina.



it is also interesting how much we worked together during WW2 against the Japanese and the French Nazi collaborators



As Ho set about building his nation, he counted on friendships he had forged within the OSS. He wrote to one OSS agent: "The war is finished. It is good for everybody. I feel only sorry that all our American friends have to leave us so soon."
Dean Rusk had never met Ho Chi Minh, but he had been one of the Americans to aid Ho against the Japanese. As a deputy to General Joseph Stilwell in the China-Burma-India theater, Rusk authorized an air drop of U.S. arms and cigarettes to Ho's guerrillas. At the time, Rusk didn't care whether Ho was a nationalist or a Communist so long as he was trying to kill Japanese. And OSS agents like Patti were reporting enthusiastically about the Vietminh.


You said "Why do we keep fighting" - i.e., NOW, in the present time.  Smiley
  
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #31 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:52am
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:45am:
You said "Why do we keep fighting" - i.e., NOW, in the present time.  Smiley


we created al queada in Afghanistan
we started a war for no reason in iraq and now fight the isis we created there

you are right that no one in either place was trying very hard for any thing resembling freedom, but the ME would have been a very different place if we hadn't overthrown Iran's secular democracy, or given support to sadam and to the religious crazies in Afghanistan.

not to mention all the dictatorships we support - Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Yemen ...

  

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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #32 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:00pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:28am:
do you lie about everything

a machinist deferment

That is a fact. Yes, I didn’t know that could happen. Probably because the war was almost at an end too.
I did try and join the air force. At 19 I already had my private pilot’s license. They would not guarantee I would be a pilot. I did not have a college education. So I didn’t chance it.

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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #33 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:03pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:29am:
dream on



We were being kind pussy man. They didn’t get beat up. Just a cold swim.
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #34 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:31pm
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Archie wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:03pm:
We were being kind pussy man. They didn’t get beat up. Just a cold swim.
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as I said, dream on little man,

and as you said, "sneak up behind them and" what was it - something like cut their throat with a broken beer bottle

and btw - you had to ask to be deferred, so if in fact you had the deferment that you claim, you had to ask for it to stay out of nam
archie was an evader just like mittens and cheney
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #35 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:36pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 11:52am:
we created al queada in Afghanistan


Nonsense.  Smiley

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we started a war for no reason in iraq


MORE nonsense.  Cheesy

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and now fight the isis we created there



ISIS got a foothold there after HUSSEIN's cut-and-run.

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  the ME would have been a very different place if we hadn't overthrown Iran's secular democracy


Here we go again.  Roll Eyes  The US overthrew Mossadegh AFTER HE ABOLIISHED PARLIAMENT.

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or given support to sadam


That was because the islamofascists were about to overrun the middle east.  Roll Eyes

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and to the religious crazies in Afghanistan.


That was to oppose the soviet land grab.  Roll Eyes

Your grasp of history is like a redacted document - you cut out all the historical events that would reveal your narrative as a nutcase fantasy.

  
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #36 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:44pm
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
Nonsense.  Smiley


MORE nonsense.  Cheesy



ISIS got a foothold there after HUSSEIN's cut-and-run.


Here we go again.  Roll Eyes  The US overthrew Mossadegh AFTER HE ABOLIISHED PARLIAMENT.



That was because the islamofascists were about to overrun the middle east.  Roll Eyes


That was to oppose the soviet land grab.  Roll Eyes

Your grasp of history is like a redacted document - you cut out all the historical events that would reveal your narrative as a nutcase fantasy.



you evidently have none

Afghanistan we supported supplied and funded the mujahedeen which became al queada

then we started a war for profit in Iraq, which lead to alqueada coming into Iraq for the 1st time and we murdered countless children mothers and grandparents while putting the entire military out of work but with their weapons

then lil bush signed a cut and run with the piss-ant government he created there, leaving Obama the choice to stay under iraqui terms or to leave as planned by bush

all resulting in the crap that is going on now 



  

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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #37 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:50pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:31pm:
as I said, dream on little man,

and as you said, "sneak up behind them and" what was it - something like cut their throat with a broken beer bottle

and btw - you had to ask to be deferred, so if in fact you had the deferment that you claim, you had to ask for it to stay out of nam
archie was an evader just like mittens and cheney
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I did not ask for it. Personnel did. That was at Waterbury Farrel Foundry and machine Co. However, I was glad. I did not want to go anywhere. My mom was glad too.
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #38 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:55pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:31pm:
as I said, dream on little man,

and as you said, "sneak up behind them and" what was it - something like cut their throat with a broken beer bottle

and btw - you had to ask to be deferred, so if in fact you had the deferment that you claim, you had to ask for it to stay out of nam
archie was an evader just like mittens and cheney
and me


Never said sneak up on anyone. I said that if you can’t walk away from a brawl, don’t hit anyone with your hands. Use the nearest handy object. And if it is a bottle and it breaks, then you can shove that where it will get attention. I broke my fifth right metacarpal in a fight in grammar school. Six weeks in a cast. No thanks again.
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Re: 49 years ago kill anything that moves or breathes
Reply #39 - Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:59pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 18th, 2017 at 3:44pm:
you evidently have none



Uhhhhh - you can't read.  Why don't you DEBATE instead of such gutless troll eruptions?   Cheesy

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Afghanistan we supported supplied and funded


Roll Eyes - to stop the soviet land grab.  Wanna hear it a THIRD time retard?  Smiley

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the mujahedeen which became al queada


Nonsense - they are two distinct groups.  Roll Eyes
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then we started a war for profit in Iraq


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
 

enough  Smiley
  
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