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Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:29am
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German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen on Sunday rejected U.S. President Donald Trump's claim that Germany owes NATO and the United States "vast sums" of money for defense.
"There is no debt account at NATO," von der Leyen said in a statement, adding that it was wrong to link the alliance's target for members to spend 2 percent of their economic output on defense by 2024 solely to NATO.

"Defense spending also goes into UN peacekeeping missions, into our European missions and into our contribution to the fight against IS terrorism," von der Leyen said.

She said everyone wanted the burden to be shared fairly and for that to happen it was necessary to have a "modern security concept" that included a modern NATO but also a European defense union and investment in the United Nations.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-germany-defence-idUSKBN16Q0D8?il=0

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
Reply #1 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:48am
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The world owes us. Just like the Indians for all that free college
  

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
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Wrong.  Smiley  NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP.  Here are the actual numbers (from 2016):

  
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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Wrong.  Smiley  NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP.  Here are the actual numbers (from 2016):

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/160708114244-chart-spending-percentage...


In their defense, Canada doesn't have much money.
  

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
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wonder why mr. braveheart you're fired didn't have the guts to bring in up to merkel
  

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Wrong.  Smiley  NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP.  Here are the actual numbers (from 2016):

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/160708114244-chart-spending-percentage...


Yet most countries think we should spend more to take care of others.

The US spends $35 billion on foreign aid
◦Israel: $3.1 billion


◦Egypt: $1.5 billion


◦Afghanistan: $1.1 billion


◦Jordan: $1.0 billion


◦Pakistan: $933 million

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/spends-billion-foreign/
  

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
Reply #6 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:01pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:29am:


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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
Reply #7 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:05pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:58am:
Yet most countries think we should spend more to take care of others.

The US spends $35 billion on foreign aid
◦Israel: $3.1 billion


◦Egypt: $1.5 billion


◦Afghanistan: $1.1 billion


◦Jordan: $1.0 billion


◦Pakistan: $933 million

http://mondoweiss.net/2015/11/spends-billion-foreign/



yeppers them israelis sure do need our help

and the 3.1 billion has nothing to do with past, present and future wars and defense we spend on them
http://www.timesofisrael.com/sp-israel-now-a-high-income-country/
  

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
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patrick2 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:49am:
Wrong.  Smiley  NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP.  Here are the actual numbers (from 2016):

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/160708114244-chart-spending-percentage...


The 2% figure is called a TARGET for a reason.  It is NOT mandatory.

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Re: Germans say Trump is a damned liar about owing money to NATO and the US
Reply #9 - Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:15pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 12:07pm:
The 2% figure is called a TARGET for a reason.  It is NOT mandatory.

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