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Reply #30 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:08pm:
Are just that, investigations.  Hard to yell impeach him without evidence to support all these accusations, when there is actual facts, irrefutable facts, I then will remark that he should be removed.  Let me remind you that the Marines were under investigation over Haditha where they were accused of war crimes.  In the end there was nothing but dismissals and embarrassed Dem Senators.




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Reply #31 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:00pm:
Federal investigations require some possible crime to have been committed. 

Just pointin' that out....

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- yet obama administration went after the political opposition before the election - like you said Watergate?
  

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Reply #32 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:11pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:


"LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!"

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- such Obama be locked up? - Watergate
  

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admin wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
- yet obama administration went after the political opposition before the election - like you said Watergate?


When the "political opposition" is talking to Russian spies, what do you want them to do?  Ignore it? 

Would you have felt better if the "political opposition" made phone calls to terrorists? 

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Reply #35 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:53pm
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Seawolf wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:02pm:
When there are facts that support suspicion that we can analyze, all we have are allegations.



these were allegations


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Role of the media[edit]
The connection between the break-in and the re-election committee was highlighted by media coverage—in particular, investigative coverage by The Washington Post, Time, and The New York Times. The coverage dramatically increased publicity and consequent political repercussions. Relying heavily upon anonymous sources, Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncovered information suggesting that knowledge of the break-in, and attempts to cover it up, led deeply into the upper reaches of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and the White House. Woodward and Bernstein interviewed Judy Hoback Miller, the bookkeeper for Nixon, who revealed to them information about the mishandling of funds and records being destroyed.[30]
Chief among the Post's anonymous sources was an individual whom Woodward and Bernstein had nicknamed Deep Throat; 33 years later, in 2005, the informant was identified as William Mark Felt, Sr., deputy director of the FBI during that period of the 1970s, something Woodward later confirmed. Felt met secretly with Woodward several times, telling him of Howard Hunt's involvement with the Watergate break-in, and that the White House staff regarded the stakes in Watergate extremely high. Felt warned Woodward that the FBI wanted to know where he and other reporters were getting their information, as they were uncovering a wider web of crimes than the FBI first disclosed. All of the secret meetings between Woodward and "Deep Throat" (W. Mark Felt) took place at an underground parking garage somewhere in Rosslyn over a period from June 1972 to January 1973. Prior to resigning from the FBI on June 22, 1973, Felt also anonymously planted leaks about Watergate to Time magazine, the Washington Daily News and other publications.[31]
During this early period, most of the media failed to grasp the full implications of the scandal, and concentrated reporting on other topics related to the 1972 presidential election.[32] After the reporting that one of the convicted burglars wrote to Judge Sirica alleging a high-level cover-up, the media shifted its focus. Time magazine described Nixon as undergoing "daily hell and very little trust". The distrust between the press and the Nixon administration was mutual and greater than usual due to lingering dissatisfaction with events from the Vietnam War. At the same time, public distrust of the media was polled at more than 40%.[32]
Nixon and top administration officials discussed using government agencies to "get" (or retaliate against) those they perceived as hostile media organizations.[32] The discussions had precedent. At the request of Nixon's White House in 1969, the FBI tapped the phones of five reporters. In 1971, the White House requested an audit of the tax return of the editor of Newsday, after he wrote a series of articles about the financial dealings of Charles “Bebe” Rebozo, a friend of Nixon.[33]
The Administration and its supporters accused the media of making "wild accusations", putting too much emphasis on the story, and of having a liberal bias against the Administration.[32] Nixon said in a May 1974 interview with supporter Baruch Korff that if he had followed the liberal policies that he thought the media preferred, "Watergate would have been a blip".[34] The media noted that most of the reporting turned out to be accurate; the competitive nature of the media guaranteed widespread coverage of the far-reaching political scandal.[32] Applications to journalism schools reached an all-time high in 1974.[32]





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Reply #36 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 4:09pm
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This indeed is a fun time.
  

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admin wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:
- yet obama administration went after the political opposition before the election - like you said Watergate?



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Reply #38 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 4:23pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:53pm:
these were allegations


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Role of the media[edit]
The connection between the break-in and the re-election committee was highlighted by media coverage—in particular, investigative coverage by The Washington Post, Time, and The New York Times. The coverage dramatically increased publicity and consequent political repercussions. Relying heavily upon anonymous sources, Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncovered information suggesting that knowledge of the break-in, and attempts to cover it up, led deeply into the upper reaches of the Justice Department, FBI, CIA, and the White House. Woodward and Bernstein interviewed Judy Hoback Miller, the bookkeeper for Nixon, who revealed to them information about the mishandling of funds and records being destroyed.[30]
Chief among the Post's anonymous sources was an individual whom Woodward and Bernstein had nicknamed Deep Throat; 33 years later, in 2005, the informant was identified as William Mark Felt, Sr., deputy director of the FBI during that period of the 1970s, something Woodward later confirmed. Felt met secretly with Woodward several times, telling him of Howard Hunt's involvement with the Watergate break-in, and that the White House staff regarded the stakes in Watergate extremely high. Felt warned Woodward that the FBI wanted to know where he and other reporters were getting their information, as they were uncovering a wider web of crimes than the FBI first disclosed. All of the secret meetings between Woodward and "Deep Throat" (W. Mark Felt) took place at an underground parking garage somewhere in Rosslyn over a period from June 1972 to January 1973. Prior to resigning from the FBI on June 22, 1973, Felt also anonymously planted leaks about Watergate to Time magazine, the Washington Daily News and other publications.[31]
During this early period, most of the media failed to grasp the full implications of the scandal, and concentrated reporting on other topics related to the 1972 presidential election.[32] After the reporting that one of the convicted burglars wrote to Judge Sirica alleging a high-level cover-up, the media shifted its focus. Time magazine described Nixon as undergoing "daily hell and very little trust". The distrust between the press and the Nixon administration was mutual and greater than usual due to lingering dissatisfaction with events from the Vietnam War. At the same time, public distrust of the media was polled at more than 40%.[32]
Nixon and top administration officials discussed using government agencies to "get" (or retaliate against) those they perceived as hostile media organizations.[32] The discussions had precedent. At the request of Nixon's White House in 1969, the FBI tapped the phones of five reporters. In 1971, the White House requested an audit of the tax return of the editor of Newsday, after he wrote a series of articles about the financial dealings of Charles “Bebe” Rebozo, a friend of Nixon.[33]
The Administration and its supporters accused the media of making "wild accusations", putting too much emphasis on the story, and of having a liberal bias against the Administration.[32] Nixon said in a May 1974 interview with supporter Baruch Korff that if he had followed the liberal policies that he thought the media preferred, "Watergate would have been a blip".[34] The media noted that most of the reporting turned out to be accurate; the competitive nature of the media guaranteed widespread coverage of the far-reaching political scandal.[32] Applications to journalism schools reached an all-time high in 1974.[32]

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We are not on the same page Billy, facts regarding Trump, not Nixon.  Get caught up
  


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Reply #39 - Mar 20th, 2017 at 4:24pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 3:10pm:


"LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!"

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Is she in jail?
  


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