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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 2:17pm
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I do not have to defend him, it is up to you to decide whether or not you will accept him.  Personally, I never exert effort arguing with someone who does not wish to believe, you will discover in the end.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 3:09pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 2:17pm:
I do not have to defend him, it is up to you to decide whether or not you will accept him.  Personally, I never exert effort arguing with someone who does not wish to believe, you will discover in the end.



You're tiresome.
  

Non sequitur:

The Hamster is at it Again wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 4:05pm
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BowHunter wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
You're tiresome.

Don't exert yourself.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2017 at 9:26pm
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BowHunter wrote on Apr 8th, 2017 at 3:37am:
That sounds like a sum up of Asimov's three laws of robotics.


Smiley he was one of them pesky sci-fi writers with an agenda.

Robert Sheckley.

Poul Anderson

Joe Haldemann

Arthur C Clarke

Etc etc

  

Under Capitalism, Man exploits Man.

Under Communism, it's the exact opposite.
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #14 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 1:56pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 7th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
I am noting you seem to be very general in all of your postings lacking any credible details.  You seem as if you want to stir the pot and emotions.  Look, you insult, mock and ridicule but in the end you will have your answer.  It is not for me to convince you, you are presented with the gospel and if you choose not to accept what God has done on your behalf, my hands are clean on the day of judgement.  I would rather hope you would ask honest searching answers then to act as if you care when it's nothing more then a game.
Blah blah blah, again you just seem too far gone to recognize Jesus the Man (not Jesus your Bible cartoon) as the ultimate Liberal! Free healthcare, free education, complete tolerance of all. Oh and I doubt Jesus went around like you wondering what god has done for you today, how clean your hands are - see what I mean - it's all about you you you. Selfish.
  
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #15 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:16pm
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Muckster wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
Blah blah blah, again you just seem too far gone to recognize Jesus the Man (not Jesus your Bible cartoon) as the ultimate Liberal! Free healthcare, free education, complete tolerance of all. Oh and I doubt Jesus went around like you wondering what god has done for you today, how clean your hands are - see what I mean - it's all about you you you. Selfish.

Your rants are very vague muckster.  How about getting to the heart of what concerns you.  Feel free to reprove me regarding scriptures since this is what our discussions are revolving around.  Finally, you are new here and you really do not know me.  You have never asked me about my views, where they originate or the basis of my faith.  What you have done is create a strawman argument based solely on your assumptions about a stranger you have no knowledge of.  You would do yourself a big favor by asking questions first to base your remarks on, if instead you are going to assume then there is no further need to have this discussion.  Tell me your understanding of Jesus Christ and where your knowledge of him originates from and then lets move from there.

To be honest, I am suspecting you simply wish to initiate a reaction out of me and others then have an honest debate, been on here too long to have not seen this before, in case you are not aware.  If that is your game, do not expect me to participate.  On the other hand, if you want an honest back and forth discussion minus assumptions, strawman arguments and name calling, then you can count me in.
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"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #16 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 1:42pm
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It's enough for me to know that your understanding of Jesus comes from "scripture", as if using that word makes it somehow sacred. The NT is nothing more than a hobbled together bunch of stories told, retold, mistold, a hundred times over then translated into old English then loosely interpreted by numerous preachers who themselves have hardly a clue what they're reading. Do you even know that there most likely were no people named "Mark", "Luke", and "David"? I think maybe you should stop pontificating here and learn a little about the real Jesus, not the cartoon you pretend to pray to. AND THEN, when you've learned a little, come back and try to berate Liberals about morality.
  
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #17 - Apr 14th, 2017 at 5:32pm
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Muckster wrote on Apr 14th, 2017 at 1:42pm:
It's enough for me to know that your understanding of Jesus comes from "scripture", as if using that word makes it somehow sacred. The NT is nothing more than a hobbled together bunch of stories told, retold, mistold, a hundred times over then translated into old English then loosely interpreted by numerous preachers who themselves have hardly a clue what they're reading. Do you even know that there most likely were no people named "Mark", "Luke", and "David"? I think maybe you should stop pontificating here and learn a little about the real Jesus, not the cartoon you pretend to pray to. AND THEN, when you've learned a little, come back and try to berate Liberals about morality.

You are babbling, cite some links or move on.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

Charles Carroll, signer of the DOI
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #18 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 10:26am
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 14th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
You are babbling, cite some links or move on.


It's interesting that you ask for 'links' when you (and I) know that there is no link..  no evidence.. no words whatsoever .. that could bring you to question your Faith.. 

Again we see that there is nothing 'scientific' about the bible or belief therein .. Anytime critical thinking enters into the decision making process a true believer's Faith quickly puts it aside..

  
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #19 - Apr 19th, 2017 at 4:35pm
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Fiddler wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 10:26am:
It's interesting that you ask for 'links' when you (and I) know that there is no link..  no evidence.. no words whatsoever .. that could bring you to question your Faith.. 

Again we see that there is nothing 'scientific' about the bible or belief therein .. Anytime critical thinking enters into the decision making process a true believer's Faith quickly puts it aside..


There is, but you dismiss it or try to marginalize, we have history supporting scripture and scripture supporting history but that too is dismissed.  Faith is a subject you are very familiar with because you have to have faith that life sprang out of nothing and accidently created a balanced environment, despite evidence to the contrary.  This is where you put aside your critical thinking and simply hope it's true.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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