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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #70 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:36pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
You don't want to discuss either which makes your remark  extremely hypocritical, you keep telling people that they don't understand the context of scripture as if you were a great authority on it but you never expand on it.

Physician heal thyself!*


*FYI, that's from the bible.

Used by someone who does not believe in his Creator.  I already DID respond, and even explained and gave a link, you are looking for a fight.  Not in the mood so stay on topic or move on, last warning.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #71 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:38pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:02pm:
You don't want to discuss either which makes your remark  extremely hypocritical, you keep telling people that they don't understand the context of scripture as if you were a great authority on it but you never expand on it.

Physician heal thyself!*


*FYI, that's from the bible.


Actually,  it was already a proverb before the Bible verses containing it were written.

We may only have it because it was recorded there, so, yes, it's "from the Bible",  but it preceded the Bible.


I am interested in your view of the "little dog" story.

It would be possible to interpret it many ways. The most obvious (not usually the same as the most accurate) us as stated above, Jesus would have, like Jews around Him, sneered at members of other tribes.


Where do we go from there?
  

Under Capitalism, Man exploits Man.

Under Communism, it's the exact opposite.
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #72 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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Limey wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:38pm:
Actually,  it was already a proverb before the Bible verses containing it were written.

We may only have it because it was recorded there, so, yes, it's "from the Bible",  but it preceded the Bible.


I am interested in your view of the "little dog" story.

It would be possible to interpret it many ways. The most obvious (not usually the same as the most accurate) us as stated above, Jesus would have, like Jews around Him, sneered at members of other tribes.


Where do we go from there?


I believe you're having me confused with RD. He's the one who can read ancient Greek and whatnot. I am just a dilettante.
  

Non sequitur:

The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #73 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:17pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Used by someone who does not believe in his Creator.  I already DID respond, and even explained and gave a link, you are looking for a fight.  Not in the mood so stay on topic or move on, last warning.


My belief or lack thereof in a creator is irrelevant to my understanding of the bible. I know a great deal more about Greek Mythology and don't need to believe in Zeus for that either.

You don't want to discuss anything. You keep insulting people by telling them that they don't know what they're talking about. That's your idea of debate. In fact I've never seen you debate anything. At most you'll copy and paste someone else's words but when it comes to your personal views all you're capable of doing is telling people that they are wrong or that "we'll have answers" after we're dead. That's not debate, that's bullshit.

As for your warnings. You don't warn people when you're guiltier than they are, which is what you are.
  

Non sequitur:

The Wet Dreams of Mr Cousteau wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #74 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 6:57pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:17pm:
My belief or lack thereof in a creator is irrelevant to my understanding of the bible. I know a great deal more about Greek Mythology and don't need to believe in Zeus for that either.

You don't want to discuss anything. You keep insulting people by telling them that they don't know what they're talking about. That's your idea of debate. In fact I've never seen you debate anything. At most you'll copy and paste someone else's words but when it comes to your personal views all you're capable of doing is telling people that they are wrong or that "we'll have answers" after we're dead. That's not debate, that's bullshit.

As for your warnings. You don't warn people when you're guiltier than they are, which is what you are.



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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #75 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 7:07pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:17pm:
My belief or lack thereof in a creator is irrelevant to my understanding of the bible. I know a great deal more about Greek Mythology and don't need to believe in Zeus for that either.

You don't want to discuss anything. You keep insulting people by telling them that they don't know what they're talking about. That's your idea of debate. In fact I've never seen you debate anything. At most you'll copy and paste someone else's words but when it comes to your personal views all you're capable of doing is telling people that they are wrong or that "we'll have answers" after we're dead. That's not debate, that's bullshit.

As for your warnings. You don't warn people when you're guiltier than they are, which is what you are.

It's very relevant and you have done absolutely nothing to discuss this topic.  You just keep pivoting.  I am more then willing to discusss, if you want to incite and combat, then by all means go to the political forum.  Why is it so difficult for you to have an actual discussion minus the insults and attacks?  Honest question.
  


"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure (and) which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #76 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:02pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:12am:
Then, as I have stated to you before, you do not understand the context of scripture.


I bring up the reference and explain the context.  You don't even know what the reference is to.  You actually manage to find it and can't explain the context.  I re-explain the passage to you.  But the problem is I don't understand context.  LMAO.  You clown.
  

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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #77 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:53pm
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BowHunter wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 5:11pm:
I believe you're having me confused with RD. He's the one who can read ancient Greek and whatnot. I am just a dilettante.



I was simply contextualising the proverb, as pre-Bibical.

It wasn't aimed at anybody in particular.
  

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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #78 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:47pm
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Running Deer wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
I bring up the reference and explain the context.  You don't even know what the reference is to.  You actually manage to find it and can't explain the context.  I re-explain the passage to you.  But the problem is I don't understand context.  LMAO.  You clown.

I can't t explain the context or you refuse to accept the context and link I provided?  Interesting I spent time breaking it down and interpreting it and instead you are now reverting to juvenile behavior rather then simply pointing out why you disagree with my remarks.  When you spoke about the woman, you were vague with no scripture references, which goes a long way in the discussion.  I did not recognize it because the way you interpreted it is by no means how any of the Bible scholars would see it nor how I saw it.  Is there any hope of getting beyond the name calling?
  


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Re: Where do I go to find the roots of liberal morality?
Reply #79 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 8:11pm
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Seawolf wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
When you spoke about the woman, you were vague with no scripture references


Hilarious.  I went to put "syro phoenician woman" into Google, and Google auto-completed the search when I got to "syro ph".  How lazy are you?
  

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