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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #60 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 3:30pm
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:17am:
I love the fact that people are disturbed that they can't figure out what President Trump and his military advisors will do next.  That, my friends, is the way that battles, wars, skirmishes, have a chance of being won.  Don't tell the world ahead of time what your plans are.  Also, for heaven's sake, don't talk tough, draw red lines in sand, and then ignore what you said and did and act wimpy with ineffective, slow moving attempts at diplomacy.  Good grief, that doesn't deter anyone who is out to destroy you or others.  They laugh and skoff at you and disrespect you whenever possible.


There is a huge difference between being unpredictable during a war (which is an effective strategy) and not having any foreign policy ideology to begin with.

His unpredictability could lead us into a devastating conflict.

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I love the charges of flip-flopping against President Trump.  He didn't flip-flop.  He reacted to a drastically changing situation.  Do you really believe that some nation wouldn't attempt using chemical warfare against the U.S. or our allies if there was no response to using them in Syria?  Think, people.  We now have a POTUS who understands showing strength not weakness.  He also respects the military after 8 years of the military not receiving much respect from the POTUS.  He listens to their advice and comments.


Of course he flip flopped, Syria had already been accused of using chemical weapons and Trump criticized Obama for even wanting to get involved.  It was all about America first.  And now that he is there he completely changed his tune.

That is the classic flip flop it doesn't get any clearer than that.

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Speaking of flip-flopping, obummer presented himself during his first campaign as a rather middle of the road dem.  He got elected and lo and behold, Saul Alinsky appeared in his body and obummer leaned so far to the left he about tipped over.  Ah, but people got their  "obamaphone" so the dems were happy.  They "got stuff".  They didn't care that he flip-flopped. Grin


Right, just like you don't care that Trump flipped.

It's called partisan politics.
  

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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #61 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 3:34pm
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:17am:
I love the fact that people are disturbed that they can't figure out what President Trump and his military advisors will do next.  That, my friends, is the way that battles, wars, skirmishes, have a chance of being won.  Don't tell the world ahead of time what your plans are.  Also, for heaven's sake, don't talk tough, draw red lines in sand, and then ignore what you said and did and act wimpy with ineffective, slow moving attempts at diplomacy.  Good grief, that doesn't deter anyone who is out to destroy you or others.  They laugh and skoff at you and disrespect you whenever possible.

I love the charges of flip-flopping against President Trump.  He didn't flip-flop.  He reacted to a drastically changing situation.  Do you really believe that some nation wouldn't attempt using chemical warfare against the U.S. or our allies if there was no response to using them in Syria?  Think, people.  We now have a POTUS who understands showing strength not weakness.  He also respects the military after 8 years of the military not receiving much respect from the POTUS.  He listens to their advice and comments.

Speaking of flip-flopping, obummer presented himself during his first campaign as a rather middle of the road dem.  He got elected and lo and behold, Saul Alinsky appeared in his body and obummer leaned so far to the left he about tipped over.  Ah, but people got their  "obamaphone" so the dems were happy.  They "got stuff".  They didn't care that he flip-flopped. Grin

I agree with everything you have said.  While I remain a hard core Conservative, I appreciate that just because of the simple fact that Trump is no Ideologue, he is not nearly as predicable, as a Leader who is.  In this regard, it is a strength that he displays; not being committed to a certain course of action. He is flexible and pragmatic;

Trump believes in Making America Great Again and part of this means not being played or pushed around by anyone!
  

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Reply #62 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 9:06pm
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Archie wrote on Apr 14th, 2017 at 11:08pm:
I can refute every one of those.

No you can't. Like usual, you're full of shit.
  
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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #63 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:29pm
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Jimmy S wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 9:06pm:
No you can't. Like usual, you're full of shit.



Despite everything this doesn’t mean James Comey is secure in his position. Just prior to explaining why Hillary wasn’t brought up on charges, Trump was asked if it’s too late to ask Comey to step down, to which he responds, “No, it’s not too late, but, you know, I have confidence in him,” Trump responded. “We’ll see what happens.” He has not forgotten what Hillary has done.

It is far from dead in the water. And you no longer will be fined if you don’t have insurance.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal Wednesday, Trump suggested the federal government would hold back key subsidy payments made to health insurers offering insurance to low-income Americans.
“Obamacare is dead next month if it doesn’t get that money,” Trump said. “I haven’t made my viewpoint clear yet. I don’t want people to get hurt.”
The payments are at the center of an ongoing legal battle between the previous administration and House Republicans, who argue the payments were made improperly without congressional approval.
The Obama administration filed an appeal to a federal judge’s ruling in favor of House Republicans, which Republicans extended after the inauguration. To stop the payments, which the government is still making, the Trump administration would simply have to drop the appeal.
“It wasn’t authorized by Congress," Trump told the Journal. “I’m going to have to make a decision.”
Trump’s comments come two days after the Department of Health and Human Services told The New York Times the cost-sharing subsidy payments will continue.
A White House spokesman said Wednesday night that no decision has been made regarding the payments.
Health care experts say stopping the payments would severely undermine Obamacare and the insurance markets, and prompt some insurers to flee the system.
“Insurance companies would lose billions of dollars of cost-sharing subsidies,” Robert Laszekwski, a health policy consultant, said in a recent interview. “He could blow up the system right now.”
Republicans, including House Speake Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, have called for the payments to continue, at least until Republicans can pass their GOP health care proposal
They need some democrat help. Ha ha.

And why are some countries a bit pissed at Trump. Because we are not going to kiss their ass anymore and be taken advantage of in one way or another.

And he is working on the tax reform with some people much smarter than you that are used to all those zeros. It may take more time than his first 90 days. Obama had eight years and what did he give you? Only a lot more debt that I can think of, and the loss of respect in the world.

Does that help you any?
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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #64 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:04am
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 6:17am:
Also, for heaven's sake, don't talk tough, draw red lines in sand, and then ignore what you said and did and act wimpy with ineffective, slow moving attempts at diplomacy.


The irony.  It burns.  I've lost count of how many red lines Trump has drawn in the sand and then ignored what he said.  Apparently, when Obama does it he's being wimpy and ineffective.  When Trump does it, he's being adaptive and bold.  It's like McConnell accusing the democrats of unprecedented obstructionism!
  

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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #65 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:08am
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Archie wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:29pm:
Despite everything this doesn’t mean James Comey is secure in his position. Just prior to explaining why Hillary wasn’t brought up on charges, Trump was asked if it’s too late to ask Comey to step down, to which he responds, “No, it’s not too late, but, you know, I have confidence in him,” Trump responded. “We’ll see what happens.” He has not forgotten what Hillary has done.

It is far from dead in the water. And you no longer will be fined if you don’t have insurance.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal Wednesday, Trump suggested the federal government would hold back key subsidy payments made to health insurers offering insurance to low-income Americans.
“Obamacare is dead next month if it doesn’t get that money,” Trump said. “I haven’t made my viewpoint clear yet. I don’t want people to get hurt.”
The payments are at the center of an ongoing legal battle between the previous administration and House Republicans, who argue the payments were made improperly without congressional approval.
The Obama administration filed an appeal to a federal judge’s ruling in favor of House Republicans, which Republicans extended after the inauguration. To stop the payments, which the government is still making, the Trump administration would simply have to drop the appeal.
“It wasn’t authorized by Congress," Trump told the Journal. “I’m going to have to make a decision.”
Trump’s comments come two days after the Department of Health and Human Services told The New York Times the cost-sharing subsidy payments will continue.
A White House spokesman said Wednesday night that no decision has been made regarding the payments.
Health care experts say stopping the payments would severely undermine Obamacare and the insurance markets, and prompt some insurers to flee the system.
“Insurance companies would lose billions of dollars of cost-sharing subsidies,” Robert Laszekwski, a health policy consultant, said in a recent interview. “He could blow up the system right now.”
Republicans, including House Speake Paul Ryan, R-Wisconsin, have called for the payments to continue, at least until Republicans can pass their GOP health care proposal
They need some democrat help. Ha ha.

And why are some countries a bit pissed at Trump. Because we are not going to kiss their ass anymore and be taken advantage of in one way or another.

And he is working on the tax reform with some people much smarter than you that are used to all those zeros. It may take more time than his first 90 days. Obama had eight years and what did he give you? Only a lot more debt that I can think of, and the loss of respect in the world.

Does that help you any?
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When Barry was president it was innocently called "evolving".
  

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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #66 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:18am
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Do You Eat Carrots wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:08am:
When Barry was president it was innocently called "evolving".


Your remark is to fact what racism is to objective characterization.
  

Non sequitur:

Do You Eat Carrots wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 4:30am:
... that has less power than a hair dryer used by a eunuch.



Rabbit_Reborn wrote on Feb 5th, 2017 at 5:40pm:
...that makes me a moron.
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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #67 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:39am
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Lomelis wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 3:30pm:
There is a huge difference between being unpredictable during a war (which is an effective strategy) and not having any foreign policy ideology to begin with.

His unpredictability could lead us into a devastating conflict.


Of course he flip flopped, Syria had already been accused of using chemical weapons and Trump criticized Obama for even wanting to get involved.  It was all about America first.  And now that he is there he completely changed his tune.

That is the classic flip flop it doesn't get any clearer than that.


Right, just like you don't care that Trump flipped.

It's called partisan politics.


Smiley  I do't believe that I've ever stated that I'm not a partisan, politically.

You can say President Trump flip-flopped from when he was candidate Trump.  I just say that the situation changed and so did his ideas.

Responding as he did, is keeping America first.  obummer was more interested in ........... jeesh, I have no idea what he was interested in doing, other than tearing down the U.S.
  
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Re: Trump slams fist down on top of desk.
Reply #68 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 5:44am
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forgotten centrist wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:04am:
The irony.  It burns.  I've lost count of how many red lines Trump has drawn in the sand and then ignored what he said.  Apparently, when Obama does it he's being wimpy and ineffective.  When Trump does it, he's being adaptive and bold.  It's like McConnell accusing the democrats of unprecedented obstructionism!


Gee, I do wish you could remember how many red lines Trump has drawn in the sand and ignored.  It would help in any discussion about it.  He's only been in office approximately 90 days.  What would you have liked him to accomplish in that length of time, or have you forgotten that, too?
  
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