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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #50 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:56pm
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TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
I hope you had your tongue planted firmly in your cheek as you typed "democratic forces."

You think arming radical terrorists is a smart idea? And you call me stupid?

I'll put my logic up against yours any day of the week.



Read up, Sparky.  Roll Eyes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Democratic_Forces
  
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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #51 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:58pm
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Helena Ann Basket wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 9:33pm:
How many times have tried and failed? How often has it worked? How many billions of dollars and thousands of lives have been wasted trying to democratize the Middle East?


Well, take WWII - saved ALL of western Europe for democracy.  Saved ALL of east asia for democracy.  How many countries is that alone? 40?
  
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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #52 - Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:00pm
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patrick2 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:58pm:
Well, take WWII - saved ALL of western Europe for democracy.  Saved ALL of east asia for democracy.  How many countries is that alone? 40?


This isn't about Europe. It's about the Middle East. How many countries have we successfully democratized?
  

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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #53 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:55am
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patrick2 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:56pm:


Oh well...

Egg on my face, lol.

With that said, I still have my eyebrow raised at these "democratic" forces. As if this was about democracy and not a pipeline.
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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #54 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:57pm
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Helena Ann Basket wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 9:33pm:
How many times have tried and failed? How often has it worked? How many billions of dollars and thousands of lives have been wasted trying to democratize the Middle East?



Funny that.

All we had to do was to not overthrow the Iranian democracy in 1953.

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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #55 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:16pm
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patrick2 wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 10:58pm:
Well, take WWII - saved ALL of western Europe for democracy.  Saved ALL of east asia for democracy.  How many countries is that alone? 40?


To be scrupulous,  that was after Britain made it politically and militarily possible.


You might well have gone down the Yellow Joe Kennedy route otherwise.
  

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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #56 - Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:19pm
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Funny that.

All we had to do was to not overthrow the Iranian democracy in 1953.

Flourishing democracy all around, but not a penny profit


...is that the one that was there despite the British /Soviet invasion of 1941, which nobody has ever heard of and somehow poisoned Iranian opinion against the West?
  

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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #57 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:19am
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Helena Ann Basket wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
This isn't about Europe. It's about the Middle East. How many countries have we successfully democratized?


Turkey, Iraq.
  
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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #58 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:21am
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TowardLiberty wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:55am:
Oh well...

Egg on my face, lol.

With that said, I still have my eyebrow raised at these "democratic" forces. As if this was about democracy and not a pipeline.


Roll Eyes  Oh geez.  The ol' "it's all about oil" canard floats to the surface again.....
  
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Re: What to do in Syria
Reply #59 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:22am
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billy.pilgrim wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Funny that.

All we had to do was to not overthrow the Iranian democracy in 1953.




There are even LIBIDIOTS who don't use that old fake history any more.  Grin
  
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