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- without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate?
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- without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate and only control their own laws taxes etc?
  

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Get rid of the welfare state.
  

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- without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate and only control their own laws taxes etc?


We kind of already have that option.   If you're choking on the hippy body odor in San Fransisco, just move to a junky conservative state.

Other than that, you're screwed.  The libs will continue to win the culture war as is evident by the least ideological, least conservative Republican ever to grace the White House.

  

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Re: - without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate?
Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:02am
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Helena Ann Basket wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:51am:
Get rid of the welfare state.


What, like Tennessee?

Nine of the 10 states that get the most federal dollars and pay the least... can you guess? That's right, they're red states. And 8 of the 10 states that receive the least and pay the most?  They're blue states.

Get a job conservative freeloaders.
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:26am
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Why should conservatives and liberals separate?  We're supposed to be the united states, not the separate states.  We had the most liberal/socialist President since Franklin Roosevelt from 2009 to 2017.  Now we have a more moderate/conservative POTUS, and that's the whole idea of the political set-up of our nation.  It's a good system.
  
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Capt. Obvious B.S.C. wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:02am:
What, like Tennessee?

Nine of the 10 states that get the most federal dollars and pay the least... can you guess? That's right, they're red states. And 8 of the 10 states that receive the least and pay the most?  They're blue states.

Get a job conservative freeloaders.



Part of the explanation for why southern states dominate the “most dependent” category is historical. During the many decades in the 20th century when the South was solidly Democratic, its congressional representatives in both the House and the Senate, enjoying great seniority, came to hold leadership positions on powerful committees, which they used to send federal dollars back to their home states in the form of contracts, projects, installations. 

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Yep, once you get the money coming, it's an unending flow that rarely, if ever, stops.  it needs to be changed.
  
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crepe05 wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:26am:
Why should conservatives and liberals separate?  We're supposed to be the united states, not the separate states.  We had the most liberal/socialist President since Franklin Roosevelt from 2009 to 2017.  Now we have a more moderate/conservative POTUS, and that's the whole idea of the political set-up of our nation. [highlight] It's a good system[/highlight].



Yep, losing your freedoms and liberties is a good system Roll Eyes

  

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Capt. Obvious B.S.C. wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:59am:
We kind of already have that option.   If you're choking on the hippy body odor in San Fransisco, just move to a junky conservative state.

Other than that, you're screwed.  The libs will continue to win the culture war as is evident by the least ideological, least conservative Republican ever to grace the White House.




You got that right!
  

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Re: - without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate?
Reply #9 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:37am
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Capt. Obvious B.S.C. wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:02am:
What, like Tennessee?

Nine of the 10 states that get the most federal dollars and pay the least... can you guess? That's right, they're red states. And 8 of the 10 states that receive the least and pay the most?  They're blue states.

Get a job conservative freeloaders.



Ah..... it's also a "catch 22" 


Blue states tax it's citizens more and therefore a lot of it's doer citizens/retirees leave. Hence NY, NJ and Cali for example

Why would Red states say no to Fed aid if the Fed Gov is stupid enough to  give it to them?
  

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