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Reply #30 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:17am
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:05am:
When more than 50% of the nation voted for Hillary, I really doubt that the Democratic party will implode.  The problem with this country is that the right is not willing to compromise.  it is either their way or the highway.  If anything, trump has helped energize the democrats.  The protests and the town hall meetings is evidence of that.

I know Democrats who are not "crazies" and who are very uncomfortable with the craziness of (their) Democrat Leadership and the loud, obnoxious fringe (including the media).  While at this point they can not get behind Trump (and are probably just as upset as we were about Obama being elected) they are going to work every day and raising their families and tuning out of politics.  (I am leaving them be; so they can lick their wounds).

If (when) there is undeniable evidence that Trump has improved their lives and the lot of our nation, I expect we will see the Democrats who remain loud, rude and obnoxious will become marginalized and many Americans will not want to  be associated with them (anymore), This happened under the four years of Jimmy Carter followed by the recovery under Ronald Reagan.

Many people become Democrats (or Republicans, for that matter) simply because their family and everyone they know are, while young people are indoctrinated into leftist thinking, until most of them grow the f**k up (and learn from the school of real life, that they have been spoon fed a line of s**t)


  

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Reply #31 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:31am
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The Original Wally wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:17am:
I know Democrats who are not "crazies" and who are very uncomfortable with the craziness of (their) Democrat Leadership and the loud, obnoxious fringe (including the media).  While at this point they can not get behind Trump (and are probably just as upset as we were about Obama being elected) they are going to work every day and raising their families and tuning out of politics.  (I am leaving them be; so they can lick their wounds).

If (when) there is undeniable evidence that Trump has improved their lives and the lot of our nation, I expect we will see the Democrats who remain loud, rude and obnoxious will become marginalized and many Americans will not want to  be associated with them (anymore), This happened under the four years of Jimmy Carter followed by the recovery under Ronald Reagan.

Many people become Democrats (or Republicans, for that matter) simply because their family and everyone they know are, while young people are indoctrinated into leftist thinking, until most of them grow the f**k up (and learn from the school of real life, that they have been spoon fed a line of s**t)

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Obama won twice and would have probably won again if he could run a third term.  Most democrats were happy with him.  He was not an extremist.  Most criticism he got from the left is that he was not left enough.  The right hated him simply because he was a democrat and many hated him more because he was a black democrat. 

Republicans are waiting for a president to improve their lives?  Did Bush improve their lives?  Clinton improved their lives and most republicans hated him.  Lets be honest here.  The republicans hate the democrats not because they think they are socialist or they think they are trying to make this country a welfare state.  Not because they believe the democrats want to take away their guns.  Not because they don't like abortions or gay rights.  They don't like democrats because they are afraid of losing white privilege and white power.  Most won't admit it and some don't even realize it.  Democrats look out for the poor, republicans look out for themselves. 

  

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Reply #32 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39am
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:31am:
Obama won twice and would have probably won again if he could run a third term.  Most democrats were happy with him.  He was not an extremist.  Most criticism he got from the left is that he was not left enough.  The right hated him simply because he was a democrat and many hated him more because he was a black democrat. 

Republicans are waiting for a president to improve their lives?  Did Bush improve their lives?  Clinton improved their lives and most republicans hated him.  Lets be honest here.  The republicans hate the democrats not because they think they are socialist or they think they are trying to make this country a welfare state.  Not because they believe the democrats want to take away their guns.  Not because they don't like abortions or gay rights.  They don't like democrats because they are afraid of losing white privilege and white power.  Most won't admit it and some don't even realize it.  Democrats look out for the poor, republicans look out for themselves. 


You have made your position crystal clear.  I guess the future will determine if you are right or if the Kool Aid you've been drinking takes you, and the whole Left Wing Cult, out!

  

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Reply #33 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:40am
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:31am:
Obama won twice and would have probably won again if he could run a third term.  Most democrats were happy with him.  He was not an extremist.  Most criticism he got from the left is that he was not left enough.  The right hated him simply because he was a democrat and many hated him more because he was a black democrat. 

Republicans are waiting for a president to improve their lives?  Did Bush improve their lives?  Clinton improved their lives and most republicans hated him.  Lets be honest here.  The republicans hate the democrats not because they think they are socialist or they think they are trying to make this country a welfare state.  Not because they believe the democrats want to take away their guns.  Not because they don't like abortions or gay rights.  They don't like democrats because they are afraid of losing white privilege and white power.  Most won't admit it and some don't even realize it.  Democrats look out for the poor, republicans look out for themselves. 




Hallelujah!!! Waddy said something I can agree with.  Neither party will improve our lives, period!  It's one's own job to improve their lives.

The rest of your post shows what a racist you are.  You're the only one here that ever brings up race.
  
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The Original Wally wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39am:
You have made your position crystal clear.  I guess the future will determine if you are right or if the Kool Aid you've been drinking takes you, and the whole Left Wing Cult, out!


I think you are drinking the Kool-Aid here.
  

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Hallelujah!!! Waddy said something I can agree with.  Neither party will improve our lives, period!  It's one's own job to improve their lives.

The rest of your post shows what a racist you are.  You're the only one here that ever brings up race.

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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
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You are a liar.


Who brings up race more than you? And prove it with examples if your going to accuse someone else. Your history on that subject precedes you.
  
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
I think you are drinking the Kool-Aid here.



Wadsworth wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
In other words, you have no response.  Just pulling shit out of your ass again.

  
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Who brings up race more than you? And prove it with examples if your going to accuse someone else. Your history on that subject precedes you.

I don't have to Bama and Johnny started threads on race just recently.  BTW, bringing up race does not mean you are a racist.
  

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Re: - without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate?
Reply #39 - Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm
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without secession is there a way for conservatives and liberals to separate?


Yes, there is.

And this is one example.

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I would create a "hard fork" and introduce blockchain technology into government.

The Democrats would create a code which would program their tax policy, welfare policy, regulations and so on into a package deal. The republicans would do the same with tax cuts, war investment and so on. And inside these two forks could be smaller forks with more niche options. The republicans could have a sub-fork under social conservative lines, or libertarian. The democrats could have the same subdivisions between greens, unions, SJWs and the DLC.

These competing forks would have their own digital coins which would be money for those who belong. People would choose a particular plan/ fork and would receive the benefits and pay the costs of the spending plan they have selected.

The big difference between this idea and our current system is that politicians would have to create attractive proposals to entice subscribers.

The idea here to introduce a little choice and competition into the provision of government services in an evolutionary way, or in a way that does not ignore historical context. The state remains. This is not anarchy.

But it does put us on the path to it.

Below is a link to an article explaining this in greater detail.

https://fee.org/articles/government-needs-a-blockchain-and-a-hard-fork/
  

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