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Reply #20 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:07pm
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Archie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
If the right targets are picked and hit, they will have no more atomic bombs or ways to launch them.

The problem is we don't know where all their missiles are. So, if you don't really care about S. Korea and Japan, go ahead with that plan, because once we launch that strike, they'll send anything we haven't targeted right at our allies.
  
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Reply #21 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:08pm
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Walking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 11:42am:
" North Korea has 1 million active military troops. It has 3,500 tanks, 72 submarines, over 21,000 artillery pieces and 1,000 ballistic missiles, many with a range of 500 kilometres. In contrast, South Korea has barely half the military forces of its northern neighbour."

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South Korea's capital of Seoul is 30 miles from the DMZ , which puts it in range of N. Korean artillery. Most of our bases are also within range of N. Korean artillery, as well.  https://militarybases.com/south-korea/

My son is at Camp Humphries and everywhere they go on base they carry their gas masks as well as keep them close at hand,  in their barracks. 

We may have to attack or we may be attacked, but there is no doubt that it won't be a cake walk, like bombing Syria or Afghanistan.

The very best case would be that our pressure provokes a coup de' tat and Kim Jung Un is overthrown by his military.  FatBoy knows this is where he is most vulnerable, so he routinely executes anyone he thinks might oppose him.  Ideally, those left in his Military Leadership who are on a need to know footing, see the three carrier strike groups and can read the writing on the wall.  If China is quietly encouraging it, perhaps our pressure and China's influence might lead to replacing this mad Dictator!



We know by satellite where to send our bombers and guided missiles. In a matter of hours, N. Korea would be destroyed military. And I don’t think China really wants a war going on at their border. Without a dictator, and just one Korea, China, Korea, and the US may get something going for each other, $$$$$$$. Get it?
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Reply #22 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:22pm
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Archie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
We know by satellite where to send our bombers and guided missiles. In a matter of hours, N. Korea would be destroyed military. And I don’t think China really wants a war going on at their border. Without a dictator, and just one Korea, China, Korea, and the US may get something going for each other, $$$$$$$. Get it?
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China won't give up their proxy, N. Korea and allow the United States to be present on their southern border, anymore than Putin is going to give up it's puppet Syria.  China has very little control over Kim Jug Un, as they had with his father and grandfather.  They probably would allow him to be replaced and for us to negotiate with the new Leadership (China's new proxy) for the elimination of nukes and ICBM's.

Putin, also may allow another Alawite Dictator to replace Assad, but they too are not going to allow the United States to set up camp on the southern border of Georgia, either. Putin intends to have Georgia back under his control, as it once was part of the former Soviet Union. (the Soviet/Russian relationship with Syria goes way back, as does the China/N. Korea relationship; the best we may be able to get is a change of Leadership in these proxy states)
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Reply #23 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:01pm
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Archie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:08pm:
We know by satellite where to send our bombers and guided missiles. In a matter of hours, N. Korea would be destroyed military. And I don’t think China really wants a war going on at their border. Without a dictator, and just one Korea, China, Korea, and the US may get something going for each other, $$$$$$$. Get it?
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I think China would be more than happy to have one unified Korea, under the firm control of their puppet-man Kim.  You good with that?
  

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Reply #24 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm
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A lot of assumptions with little facts.  We simply can not allow a despot dictator to fullfill his ambition and ASSume he will never use it.  This is by no stretch a normal leader, who has murdered his own family anywhere and everywhere.  Our Isolation and embargo of NK has done NOTHING to deter his desire for nukes.  I suspect that our military are taking this as a serious threat despite what some are posting.
  


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Reply #25 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:51pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
A lot of assumptions with little facts.

Indeed, the OP is full of assumptions without facts.
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:57pm
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Demos wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
Indeed, the OP is full of assumptions without facts.

Yep, this is historical and completely in the hands of our military commanders.  We have never witnessed a fleet this massive since WW2..  Would love to be a fly on the wall at our headquarters.
  


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Seawolf wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
Yep, this is historical and completely in the hands of our military commanders.  We have never witnessed a fleet this massive since WW2..  Would love to be a fly on the wall at our headquarters.

You are correct.  As I have previously stated, my son is in the U.S. Army at Camp Humphreys, S. Korea.  This is very real and pretty darn scary. Nevertheless, it is what has to be done and should have been done a long time ago.  The can has been kicked down the road too long and now it is the time for action.  The last time we send out a three carrier Battle Group was at Midway!
  

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Reply #28 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:16pm
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By the way, news reports that Seal Team Six is in NK.  This is as serious of a threat to NK that we can show, we are walking a very fine line right now.

Pentagon is denying this but they will never confirm or deny the presence of this team for very obvious reasons.
  


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Reply #29 - Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:26pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:16pm:
By the way, news reports that Seal Team Six is in NK.  This is as serious of a threat to NK that we can show, we are walking a very fine line right now.

Pentagon is denying this but they will never confirm or deny the presence of this team for very obvious reasons.

i WISH THE STINKING MEDIA WOULD KEEP THEIR F***ing MOUTHS SHUT!

(I remember when the televised beach landing in Somalia when the very angry commander got off the landing craft and yelled at the G.D. Media to take the damn spotlights off from his men!)
  

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