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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #100 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:16pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Yes, one came forward and claim that his blonde joke offended her and claimed sexual harrassment, Kirsten Powers.  Ok, I do not see blonde jokes as sexual harrassment.


Exactly! We (no one) knows what it is that O'Reilly allegedly did or did not do!  Accusations do not a winning lawsuit make, nor do out of court settlements by FOX prove anything; these settlements always agree they acknowledge no wrongdoing and it the accuser accepts this, who's to say what the facts are (especially in cases of he said/she said.
  

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Reply #101 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:26pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:16pm:
Exactly! We (no one) knows what it is that O'Reilly allegedly did or did not do!  Accusations do not a winning lawsuit make, nor do out of court settlements by FOX prove anything; these settlements always agree they acknowledge no wrongdoing and it the accuser accepts this, who's to say what the facts are (especially in cases of he said/she said.

You know the facts, don't you.
Fact # 1  $9 million was paid out in 2004 with to a female producer
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Fact # 2  Andrea Tantaros said Mr. O‚ÄôReilly sexually harassed her in a lawsuit she filed last summer against the network and Mr. Ailes.

Fact # 3 HE settled a law suit in 2004 for repeatedly subjecting an employee to sexual harassment through dinner and phone conversations variously described as lewd, lascivious, vile and threatening.  At the time he was married.
  

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Reply #102 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:27pm
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Fiddler wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:03pm:
Would you consider your wife's atheist boss forcing her to listen to his Jesus jokes as religious harassment?




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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #103 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:42pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Yes, one came forward and claim that his blonde joke offended her and claimed sexual harrassment, Kirsten Powers.  Ok, I do not see blonde jokes as sexual harrassment.

2004O'Reilly Factor producer Andrea Mackris filed suit, accusing O'Reilly of sexual harassment and seeking $60 million in damages. Her lawyers contended that the host subjected her to inappropriate stories about his sex life on multiple occasions, told her to buy a vibrator and repeatedly described his sexual fantasies over the phone while masturbating. (Mackris apparently recorded several of their conversations.) According to the lawsuit, O'Reilly fantasized in graphic detail about whisking Mackris away to the Caribbean, where people "shed their inhibitions"; described his desire to take a falafel and "put it on [her] pussy"; regaled her with stories of his purported sexual escapades with a Scandinavian flight attendant and a Thai sex worker; and propositioned her and her college roommate one night over dinner.

O'Reilly preemptively filed suit against Mackris the same day, alleging extortion. The two settled out of court for a reported $9 million one week later. When they did, O'Reilly told his audience, "This brutal ordeal is now officially over, and I will never speak of it again."


2011Rebecca Gomez Diamond, host of the Fox show Happy Hour, sued O'Reilly after her contract with the network ran out, alleging harassment similar to that reported by Mackris years earlier. Like Mackris, Gomez Diamond recorded her conversations with O'Reilly. They eventually agreed he would personally pay her an undisclosed amount to settle the claim.


2016After Ailes' public ouster in August 2016, Fox News settled sexual harassment claims involving O'Reilly and two former employees. The first was Fox anchor Laurie Dhue, who complained the Factor host of sexual harassment and settled for $1 million. The other was Juliet Huddy, co-host of Fox & Friends First, Fox & Friends Weekend and DaySide, who alleged O'Reilly made passes at her and tried to have her fired when she rejected them. Huddy also said, like both Mackris and Diamond before her, that O'Reilly called her on the phone while audibly masturbating. Fox News settled that claim, too, covering both O'Reilly's legal fees and playing Huddy a reported $1.6 million.

Former Fox personality Andrea Tantaros said in a lawsuit filed in August that O'Reilly invited her to his "very private" home on Long Island and would often say he could tell she had a "wild" side. Her lawyer told The Times Fox offered Tantaros a seven-figure sum to settle in arbitration, but she refused.

2017Wendy Walsh, a frequent guest on The O'Reilly Factor, told The Times O'Reilly dangled a lucrative contract as a Fox contributor over dinner, then snatched it back when she refused to go to his hotel room with him. She soon stopped receiving invitations to appear on his show as well.

A former Fox News employee came forward the day before O'Reilly was fired to report the Fox host harassed her while she worked for another of the network's shows in 2008. According to her lawyer, "He would never talk to her, not even hello, except to grunt at her like a wild boar. … He would leer at her. He would always do this when no one else was around and she was scared." The woman, who is black, said O'Reilly called her "hot chocolate."


But, hey, keep standing up for the guy.
  
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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #104 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:43pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:26pm:
You know the facts, don't you.
Fact # 1  $9 million was paid out in 2004 with to a female producer
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Fact # 2  Andrea Tantaros said Mr. O’Reilly sexually harassed her in a lawsuit she filed last summer against the network and Mr. Ailes.

Fact # 3 HE settled a law suit in 2004 for repeatedly subjecting an employee to sexual harassment through dinner and phone conversations variously described as lewd, lascivious, vile and threatening.  At the time he was married.

These are generalized descriptions.  Words Matter!  What was said or simply how was something taken?  What does or does not constitute the civil violation of sexual harassment in the workplace is defined by the EEOC.  Many accusations do not met the criteria, while many do.  Again, I would think that you or anyone would not wish to be judged "guilty" for mere accusations made against you.  This is why such matters are subject to a trial, in order to establish what the facts are and whether such alleged conduct did or did not violate the statutory requirements.  This didn't happen, because the Plaintiffs settled out of Court with the employer (not O'Reilly, himself).  No doubt they and O'Reilly didn't want the publicity of a trial, but the plaintiffs must not have had a very good case, or why would they have settled.  Corporations often pay money to make problems go away.  Jesse Jackson and Al Sharptan have made a cottage industry of shaking down corporations by threatening lawsuits for alleged civil rights violations and settling out of court!
  

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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #105 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm
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Fiddler wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
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You mean when people stood in line and sang "kill a commie for Christ"?  It did not bother me and I did not run and claim religious discrimmination.  I have pretty thick skin and think it's absurd to press charges over something so childish as this.
  


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Reply #106 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:56pm
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The Original Wally wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
These are generalized descriptions.  Words Matter!  What was said or simply how was something taken?  What does or does not constitute the civil violation of sexual harassment in the workplace is defined by the EEOC.  Many accusations do not met the criteria, while many do.  Again, I would think that you or anyone would not wish to be judged "guilty" for mere accusations made against you.  This is why such matters are subject to a trial, in order to establish what the facts are and whether such alleged conduct did or did not violate the statutory requirements.  This didn't happen, because the Plaintiffs settled out of Court with the employer (not O'Reilly, himself).  No doubt they and O'Reilly didn't want the publicity of a trial, but the plaintiffs must not have had a very good case, or why would they have settled.  Corporations often pay money to make problems go away.  Jesse Jackson and Al Sharptan have made a cottage industry of shaking down corporations by threatening lawsuits for alleged civil rights violations and settling out of court!

It is fact.  You are not the judge and jury.  The cases were settled.  Do you think that FOX and O'Reilly would pay out millions based on "generalized statements"?  The fact is that you cannot accept that O'Reilly did anything wrong.  No one pays out that kind of cash if there was not wrong doing.  That is a fact.
  

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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #107 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:59pm
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Wadsworth wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:56pm:
It is fact.  You are not the judge and jury.  The cases were settled.  Do you think that FOX and O'Reilly would pay out millions based on "generalized statements"?  The fact is that you cannot accept that O'Reilly did anything wrong.  No one pays out that kind of cash if there was not wrong doing.  That is a fact. 


So you think Michael Jackson was guilty?
  

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Reply #108 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 2:00pm
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JohnnyBgood wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:59pm:
So you think Michael Jackson was guilty?

Probably.
  

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Re: SexualHarassment and O'Reilly
Reply #109 - Apr 20th, 2017 at 2:02pm
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Seawolf wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
You mean when people stood in line and sang "kill a commie for Christ"?  It did not bother me and I did not run and claim religious discrimmination. .


No.. not at all similar .. 

The situation was ... your wife's boss forcing her to endure Jesus jokes.. Speak specifically to that.  Would that be "childish" on your wife's part to be upset?  Why is that not religious harassment?



Seawolf wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
I have pretty thick skin and think it's absurd to press charges over something so childish as this.


You consider sexual harassment "childish" .. Really?  If it was you daughter .. your wife ?..  Really?





  
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