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Re: - Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did
Reply #10 - May 17th, 2017 at 2:55pm
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Vypr wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
So, the President can tell the FBI director not to investigate him? Put Trump aside for a second. You are saying the President is above the law and can kill investigations into him or his office or anything he doesn't like? That of course shows you know nothing about how things work or what this country really stands for. The President is not the Emperor.

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Re: - Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did
Reply #11 - May 17th, 2017 at 3:01pm
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Lomelis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:52pm:
Where are you getting this from?  I've seen no reports that Obama attempted to pressure Comey about the Hillary investigation.

- his speech in April 2016 on Hillary investigation
  

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Re: - Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did
Reply #12 - May 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm
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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:53pm:
- you mean what Obama did is only alleged at Trump

Have you posted some proof that Obama obstructed justice? So far, all I see is you making an allegation.

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- no liberal said Obama violated the law and he did tell FBI to clear Hillary based on no intent

So what? Two wrongs make a right?

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- and that's not even an excuse in the law on miss handling classified info

So what?

Again, IF Obama did what Trump allegedly did, then that would be obstruction and illegal.

I don't care if anyone never said that before. That only matters if you're engaged in partisanly trying to defend Trump.
  
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Re: - Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did
Reply #13 - May 17th, 2017 at 3:13pm
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Demos wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
Have you posted some proof that Obama obstructed justice? So far, all I see is you making an allegation.

So what? Two wrongs make a right?

So what?

Again, IF Obama did what Trump allegedly did, then that would be obstruction and illegal.

I don't care if anyone never said that before. That only matters if you're engaged in partisanly trying to defend Trump.

- Obama did do what only liberal partisans are saying Trump may have done
- i didn't say Obama obstructed justice - if he did by instructing the FBI to clear Hillary based on no intent - why didn't liberals say that last year? - because instructing the FBI isnt illegal - the FBI works for the President
  

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Reply #14 - May 17th, 2017 at 3:31pm
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Vypr wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
So, the President can tell the FBI director not to investigate him? Put Trump aside for a second. You are saying the President is above the law and can kill investigations into him or his office or anything he doesn't like? That of course shows you know nothing about how things work or what this country really stands for. The President is not the Emperor.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/16/gregg-jarrett-comeys-revenge-is-gun-wi...

Those who don’t know the first thing about the law immediately began hurling words like “obstruction of justice”, “high crimes and misdemeanors” and “impeachment“.   Typically, these people don’t know what they don’t know.

Here is what we do know.

Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States.  Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey.  (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361)  He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

So, if Comey believed Trump attempted to obstruct justice, did he comply with the law by reporting it to the DOJ?  If not, it calls into question whether the events occurred as the Times reported it.

Obstruction requires what’s called “specific intent” to interfere with a criminal case.  If Comey concluded, however, that Trump’s language was vague, ambiguous or elliptical, then he has no duty under the law to report it because it does not rise to the level of specific intent.  Thus, no crime.   

There is no evidence Comey ever alerted officials at the Justice Department, as he is duty-bound to do.  Surely if he had, that incriminating information would have made its way to the public either by an indictment or, more likely, an investigation that could hardly be kept confidential in the intervening months.

Comey’s memo is being treated as a “smoking gun” only because the media and Democrats, likely prompted by Comey himself, are now peddling it that way.

  

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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
- Obama did do what only liberal partisans are saying Trump may have done
- i didn't say Obama obstructed justice

If you're saying Obama did what Trump is alleged to have done, then that's obstruction.

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- if he did by instructing the FBI to clear Hillary based on no intent - why didn't liberals say that last year?

Oh, I don't know, probably the same reason you're on here so vociferously defending Trump and crying "fake news": partisanship.
  
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Reply #16 - May 17th, 2017 at 4:04pm
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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 3:01pm:
- his speech in April 2016 on Hillary investigation


Roll Eyes

You are simply spouting right wing talking points.  Literally straight out of the blogosphere.

Obama gave an interview in April where he stated that he doesn't involve himself with the investigations.  That's all that was said there.  Nut jobs are drawing parallels between what Comey reported in July and saying because what he said was similar to what Obama had said that he was therefore directed by the Obama administration to drop the investigation.  Therefore it would be obstruction of justice.

Is it possible?  Sure.  Is there any evidence?  No.

Nothing like the type of evidence of saying the FBI director creating memos and leaving a paper trail that highly suggests that Trump was attempting to personally interfere.

  

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Reply #17 - May 17th, 2017 at 4:08pm
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Lomelis wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 4:04pm:

Roll Eyes

You are simply spouting right wing talking points.  Literally straight out of the blogosphere.

Obama gave an interview in April where he stated that he doesn't involve himself with the investigations.  That's all that was said there.  Nut jobs are drawing parallels between what Comey reported in July and saying because what he said was similar to what Obama had said that he was therefore directed by the Obama administration to drop the investigation.  Therefore it would be obstruction of justice.

Is it possible?  Sure.  Is there any evidence?  No.

Nothing like the type of evidence of saying the FBI director creating memos and leaving a paper trail that highly suggests that Trump was attempting to personally interfere.




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Re: - Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did
Reply #18 - May 17th, 2017 at 4:12pm
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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
- Obama said to clear Hillary because she didnt intend to commit crime- and Comey did using that excuse

- why didn't liberals complain? - he was instructing Comey



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In truth, .. Obama should know better especially with regard to Hillary's illegal e-mail server and lack of cyber  security protection, as well as the FACT that Hillary had NO special permission to be doing gov't business on it. With law statutes, 'intentions' don't mean a damn thing. If one breaks the law, they commit a violation of the law.

Plus Hillary gave untruthful answers to the FBI and lied to Congress and destroyed material evidence. -- truth is, Hillary was guilty as hell and SHOULD have been indicted!
  

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Reply #19 - May 17th, 2017 at 4:38pm
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Didn't Nixon establish that presidents are NOT above the law?
  

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