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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #20 - May 17th, 2017 at 4:42pm
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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:46pm:
- what Constitutional law he cant tell the FBI how to investigate or not? - no such law

Gonna come back to this briefly...

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Second, by interfering with a pending investigation of his campaign officials, business associates, and government appointees, the President would violate the Constitution.  Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution requires that the President “Take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” The President’s obligations under the clause refer to a “law” to be “executed” “faithfully.” As such, the President’s Take Care obligations must meet the “law” at issue.  Federal prosecutors and law enforcement officials derive law enforcement role from the President’s constitutional Take Care Clause obligation. However, Congress created the Department, created the FBI, and established their investigative and prosecutorial responsibilities by means of legislation. Therefore, the President’s constitutional obligations flow from the integrity of those functions as provided for by law, rather than the Department’s position below the President on an organizational chart within the Executive Branch.


And if all this is true he may violated the WH's own contact policy...

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The Trump White House contacts policy articulates the purpose “to ensure that DOJ exercises its investigatory and prosecutorial functions free from the fact or appearance of improper political influence.”

The Comey Memorandum and the Take Care Clause

Yeah, yeah, yeah fake news, etc., etc.
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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #21 - May 17th, 2017 at 5:37pm
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admin wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:40pm:
- why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
- is it their propaganda method?
- or are they misinformed or ignorant?

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- the President can legally use intel as he wants to
- the President runs the FBI and can instruct them like the director on investigations

To be fair to our leftist-libbie friends, *I* didn't know for fact that the President could do those things. I never really thought about it before. I just assumed that he could.
  


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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #22 - May 17th, 2017 at 5:43pm
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Forgive me please as an outside voice (not a foreigner...  Obviously,  you guys are the foreigners 😁).

I understand from media that Mr. Trump is accused of spilling superdooper secret shit.

I also understand that he is perfectly entitled to do so as President of the rebel Colony.


I said this before on another thread....  Do you people not understand the difference between "legal" and "right"?
  

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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #23 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:12pm
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Jasmine wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 5:37pm:
To be fair to our leftist-libbie friends, *I* didn't know for fact that the President could do those things. I never really thought about it before. I just assumed that he could.

There are a whole lot of things that poster here on LNF say as if that makes their statement factual.  I much prefer it when opinions are backed up with facts and a link is provided.

Sometimes there isn't a supporting link; this is one of those times. A few days ago one or more of our Liberal friends here at LNF were ranting about Trump having broken the law if he had taped Comey in the Whitehouse.  They said that "Washington DC is a two party consent state and it's illegal to tape a conversation without the other party's knowledge and consent." I let this go by.  I didn't know at that time.  Later that same evening Judge Jeanine was on Hannity and said although we don't know for sure if Trump did or did not tape Comey, " Washington DC is a one party consent district and it is not illegal in Washington to tape someone without their consent".  This is the complete opposite from what the Lefties here were "trumping up" as if because they say it is so, that makes it so.

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/district-columbia-recording-law

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DC Wiretapping Law

"The District of Columbia's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. DC makes it a crime to record a phone call or conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. See D.C. Code § 23-542. Thus, if you operate in DC, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should play it safe and get the consent of all parties."
  

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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #24 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:16pm
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The Original Wally wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:12pm:
There are a whole lot of things that poster here on LNF say as if that makes their statement factual.  I much prefer it when opinions are backed up with facts and a link is provided.

Sometimes there isn't a supporting link; this is one of those times. A few days ago one or more of our Liberal friends here at LNF were ranting about Trump having broken the law if he had taped Comey in the Whitehouse.  They said that "Washington DC is a two party consent state and it's illegal to tape a conversation without the other party's knowledge and consent." I let this go by.  I didn't know at that time.  Later that same evening Judge Jeanine was on Hannity and said although we don't know for sure if Trump did or did not tape Comey, " Washington DC is a one party consent district and it is not illegal in Washington to tape someone without their consent".  This is the complete opposite from what the Lefties here were "trumping up" as if because they say it is so, that makes it so.

http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/district-columbia-recording-law

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DC Wiretapping Law

"The District of Columbia's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. DC makes it a crime to record a phone call or conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. See D.C. Code § 23-542. Thus, if you operate in DC, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should play it safe and get the consent of all parties."

Yep. From the link you provided:

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The District of Columbia's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. DC makes it a crime to record a phone call or conversation unless one party to the conversation consents. See D.C. Code § 23-542. Thus, if you operate in DC, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance.
  


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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #25 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:24pm
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Jasmine wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Yep. From the link you provided:


All Liberals are as repelled by facts as a Vampire is from a cross held up before them.....
  

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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #26 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:27pm
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The Original Wally wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:24pm:
All Liberals are as repelled by facts as a Vampire is from a cross held up before them.....


Oh behave!  😁

We all saw you failing to engage facts on the cannabis legalisation thread, you big humbug.
  

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Reply #27 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:38pm
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Limey wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
Oh behave!  😁

We all saw you failing to engage facts on the cannabis legalisation thread, you big humbug.

You are demonstrating your Reefer Madness!   Grin
  

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Reply #28 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:41pm
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The Original Wally wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:38pm:
You are demonstrating your Reefer Madness!   Grin


Hey, lightweight,  did you have a glass of rosé? 😁

I haven't had The Weed since 2003.
  

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Re: - why dont liberals know what the President can do legally?
Reply #29 - May 17th, 2017 at 6:44pm
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Limey wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 6:41pm:
Hey, lightweight,  did you have a glass of rosé? 😁

I haven't had The Weed since 2003.

This probably relates to the Original Post.  Why don't liberals know what the President can do legally?  Answer:  Most of them are so wasted they have a hard enough time getting up off the floor!
  

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