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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #20 - May 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm
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Walking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:57pm:
By the way "Jefferson Davis, P.G.T. Beauregard, and Robert E. Lee " were all Democrats. 


Yes.. Conservative Democrats as was the norm for Southerns of that era.   

Had they been Liberal they would have never even considered owning humans as a right in the first place much less setting themselves up as enemies of the United States and fighting to conserve the institution of slavery.

How many more times will it be required to shove the fact up your ass that the Southern racists that made up the Klan and the Confederacy were Conservatives.
  
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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #21 - May 19th, 2017 at 2:24pm
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Fiddler wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Yes.. Conservative Democrats as was the norm for Southerns of that era.   

Had they been Liberal they would have never even considered owning humans as a right in the first place much less setting themselves up as enemies of the United States and fighting to conserve the institution of slavery.

How many more times will it be required to shove the fact up your ass that the Southern racists that made up the Klan and the Confederacy were Conservatives.      

I have no doubt that the good old boy DEMOCRAT PARTY was comprised of both those who were Liberals and those who were conservatives.  Some liberal slave owners might feel it was wrong to whip their slaves or starve them or separate families at the slave auctions.  However, even the liberal Democrats no doubt supported the Dred Scott Decision and knew they had to keep hold of their property!

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The Party of Lincoln was founded as a disagreement with the Democrat party.
 " The party argued that free-market labor was superior to slavery and the very foundation of civic virtue and true republicanism. Thus, the slogan "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men" was born."
  

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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #22 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:28pm
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Wadsworth wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:07am:
The purpose is not to change facts.  The purpose is not to glorify evil.  How many statues of Hitler are standing in Germany?  Remember when Saddam Hussein was defeated?

http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/GO/saddam-statue.jpg


So you have equated southern generals with hitler and saddam?

Wow. Just wow.
  
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Reply #23 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:31pm
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Greg55_99 wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
You understand that these "heroes" fought AGAINST the Constitution of the United States and fought FOR the enslavement of human beings.

Are they really "heroes" worthy of statues?  Not in my book.

Greg


Oh jeez. All of a sudden the constitution is important to Greg. I can't keep up with the flip flopping.
  
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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #24 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:32pm
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petep wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:31pm:
Oh jeez. All of a sudden the constitution is important to Greg. I can't keep up with the flip flopping.


Human enslavement is important to me as well.  Gee, I'm waiting for some 1% owned slaves nonsense.

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Reply #25 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:35pm
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I figured at some point we would all be schooled by fiddles and crowd about how the southern dems were actually, secretly conservative republicans.

So if the southern dems were conservatives, I'm guessing the republicans like Lincoln were actually, secretly progressive liberals

Yea, that's the ticket.

It only took to page three for the dem talking points to surface
  
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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #26 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:45pm
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petep wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
I figured at some point we would all be schooled by fiddles and crowd about how the southern dems were actually, secretly conservative republicans.

So if the southern dems were conservatives, I'm guessing the republicans like Lincoln were actually, secretly progressive liberals


Try to be honest.  I didn't say that they were Republicans but there's no question that they were Conservative..

It wasn't a secret.. It's simply history ..

  
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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #27 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:52pm
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Walking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
I have no doubt that the good old boy DEMOCRAT PARTY was comprised of both those who were Liberals and those who were conservatives.  Some liberal slave owners might feel it was wrong to whip their slaves or starve them or separate families at the slave auctions.  However, even the liberal Democrats no doubt supported the Dred Scott Decision and knew they had to keep hold of their property!

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The Party of Lincoln was founded as a disagreement with the Democrat party.
 " The party argued that free-market labor was superior to slavery and the very foundation of civic virtue and true republicanism. Thus, the slogan "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men" was born."

You could not have been liberal and condoned slavery
  

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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #28 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:53pm
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Walking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
I have no doubt that the good old boy DEMOCRAT PARTY was comprised of both those who were Liberals and those who were conservatives.  Some liberal slave owners might feel it was wrong to whip their slaves or starve them or separate families at the slave auctions.  However, even the liberal Democrats no doubt supported the Dred Scott Decision and knew they had to keep hold of their property!


There were no Liberal slave owners..


Walking in a Wally Wonderland wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:24pm:
http://aboutthegop.com/early_history
The Party of Lincoln was founded as a disagreement with the Democrat party.
" The party argued that free-market labor was superior to slavery and the very foundation of civic virtue and true republicanism. Thus, the slogan "Free Soil, Free Labor, Free Men" was born."


Yes.. Civil War era Democratic Party was indeed Conservative.. The newly formed Republican Party was Progressive.  It remained that way until about the beginning of the 20th century.  .

It's simply American Political History.. Something of which you are apparently completely ignorant.

  
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Re: Oh Goody. The Civil War did not occur.
Reply #29 - May 19th, 2017 at 3:53pm
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petep wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
So you have equated southern generals with hitler and saddam?

Wow. Just wow.

Yes, anyone who fight to have the right to own slaves is not much better than Hitler and Saddam
  

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